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SPECULATION The Official Leia Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by TheOne, Sep 7, 2014.

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Where is Leia in Episode VII?

  1. Government Official?

    129 vote(s)
    69.4%
  2. Dead?

    4 vote(s)
    2.2%
  3. Hidden In Exile?

    9 vote(s)
    4.8%
  4. The Grave Robber?

    5 vote(s)
    2.7%
  5. With Han?

    31 vote(s)
    16.7%
  6. Imprisoned?

    1 vote(s)
    0.5%
  7. Not Married to Han?

    34 vote(s)
    18.3%
  8. Other?

    28 vote(s)
    15.1%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. remiel6

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    It is possible that Han is Captured and Luke must free him replaying the scenario from Jedi. Ford's age is a question, but that did not stop them in the prequel trilogies. It is possible that Han dies there is no doubt, I just doubt it will be in episode VII. Killing Han is not like killing Qui Gon or Obi wan. When both of those characters were killed they had been in a total of 2/3 of one film. Yes I know Obi Wan has been in four films before he died, but when we saw him die he had not been in four films.

    If you kill Han Solo, the movie is about killing Han (bleeping) Solo. It does not matter what's in the rest of the movie. You have made a movie about killing one of the most iconic characters in the history of film. It would be easier to kill any character in the OT before you kill Han. That does not mean Han can't die, he can, but it is not as easy as you think. You can't kill Han Solo and say that you made a feel good movie. Han dies, we all cry our asses off and go home and all we talk about for 3 months is how they killed Han Solo. Han is in this respect like Rocky. It's hard to kill a character like that even though Stallone has written his death several times and gets vetoed.
     
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    Well, recently I read that apparently it was supposed to be thought to be going forward after it was reported Speilberg's cinematographer, Janusz Kaminski, was working on Indy 5. That was later retracted by Variety.com. Even so, I thought that was part of the deal for him to sign on for Episode 7...
     
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    I haven't heard anything about Leia...she was and is an important piece to Star Wars. Where do we find her in Ep. VII?
     
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    I suppose you mean Leia. And it's a weird poll. Most options are not mutually exclusive; I'd check several of them
     
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    It's a good question..but I'm not sure your list of options includes an absolutely correct answer....

    My guess: Leia's taken up residence on Naboo in order to feel close to her mother and in want of a home following the destruction of Alderaan. Working as adviser to the current Monarch there, Leia has been instrumental in easing tensions between the liberated free systems and the diminished Galactic Empire --as well as in restoring the reputation of Naboo, home-world of the loathed and bemoaned former Galactic Emperor. While sincere in this venture, Leia is shrewd enough to acknowledge that her high-profile career also serves to draw attention away from the clandestine activities of her husband, Han, as he secretly bestows anti-Imperial factions with his knowledge of backwater smuggler routes; mercenary, underworld contacts, and the occasional loan of his Imperial-slug-out-running ship, The Millennium Falcon....

    So I chose 'Government Official', I guess. ;)
     
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    This question is something I have been thinking hard on lately. My imagination has been sparked by story conjecture coming up with many of the other actors/characters but for some reason I just feel a block with Leia. As far as an interesting arc for her, I just can't make an educated guess. I'll be waiting for JJ to surprise us all.
     
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    Merged this thread with the other of the exact same topic.
     
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    If the "25 Bounties" bombshell is true I have a feeling that Han and Leia's marriage may well be, not quite there anymore.

    Leia is for sure a government official though, it's what she was always meant to be
     
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    That would be hilarious. You see Carrie Fisher pull out a lightsaber, then suddenly it switches to her stunt double who's doing acrobatic flips, parkour, and running/leaping off of walls.
     
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    I think we need to consider Leia as a story device rather than a character. In the past, she's followed her own arc but in relation to the real hero of the OT, she was never really more than a damsel in distress. I don't mean to suggest Leia isn't a great character, I'm only talking about her story use in regard to Luke, a dynamic so strong that Vader used it to lure Luke into a trap: Luke has rescued Leia from the original Death Star and Jabba's Place, as well as responding to her suffering (against advice) when she was captive on Cloud City.

    If Luke is indeed captive in VII JJ could choose to flip the dynamic and have Leia rescue Luke for a change, but I think this would be lazy.

    I've suggested elsewhere on these boards that I think the 'threat against your sister' ploy/motif/dynamic will be returned to, only this time with tragic consequences. Here's what I suggested on the 'Will the Real Jedi Please Stand Up?' thread:

    "If Luke is being cajoled into helping 'someone' resurrect the Sith, it's likely they'd threaten to harm Leia in a blackmail attempt. If Leia had earlier positioned herself in the 'the Sith must not return... it's too dangerous' camp then Luke could shrug off the threat in good conscience, possibly presuming his captors would back down. But if they followed through and killed Leia, Luke would have cause for anger - particularly if he found out Leia had changed her mind? This would begin Luke's descent into Darkness and create a killer cliffhanger for the first of the trilogy of movies. A stark contrast to the end of IV -- where Luke is the celebrated hero before an audience of hundreds -- would be a closing scene where Luke is alone and screaming "Nooooooo!" on learning of Leia's death just as his father had after learning of Padme's death. The "Nooooooo!" motif must continue...."

    That scenario is entirely contingent on the plot involving someone trying to resurrect the Sith and needing Luke's input to do it, of course, but regardless I think the idea of Luke refusing to rescue Leia (believing that is the right decision and that she would approve of his reticence) and that leading to her death would be an explosive undermining of their established character dynamic.

    So, Leia's role: to be beautiful and confident and competent and to die because her brother let's her, thinking that is the right/best thing to do.

    I enjoy this, but I worry I care too much.... lol!
     
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    I have heard that Leia was the new Mon Mothma...

    Or... if Luke is captive and presumed dead... it would be up to Leia to rebuild the Jedi order...
     
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    I'd like to hear an explanation of why she has memories of Padme.

    why is my post dumb? You turd! lol
     
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    As George Lucas said - the returning Jedi was Anakin - turning back to the light side, from sith to jedi..
     
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    Although I agree with you about Anakin and his return, Yoda does tell Luke "Last of the Jedi will you be".
     
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    lol... thank you moderator!
     
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    certain . When Yoda died, Luke become the last of the Jedi. Vader was a Sith.
     
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    this is where i am with Leia currently.

    she is the daughter of Anakin and brother of the guy who.. most of us expect to be super powerful by ep7.
    did she not use the force to locate Luke in TESB? wasn't she already force sensitive?

    am i completely on my own in thinking that she will be a fully fledged Jedi in ep7 and training others? (ok.. you don't have to answer that lol)
     
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    Yup... and then Vader became Anakin again... but then he died... Luke is the last, to be sure... and while I think that Return of the Jedi refers not to a specific Jedi, but to the Jedi as a presence and force in the galaxy, the argument can be made that the Jedi who was Anakin returned... in the same light as "when that happened, the good man that was Anakin died", here he returned

    You may be on your own if you think she will be a full fledged Jedi... but I do think she will have explored and expanded her powers. It would be nice to see her in a council meeting desperately trying to resist the urge to force-choke some idiot who desperately needs it...
     
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    I agree with @TIDMADT on this in that I expect her to be on the political side of things and not as interested in developing her Force abilities.
     
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    would someone with force abilities be trusted as a politician? would it be responsible of Leia to take up a council type role knowing that she has force powers and is the daughter of Vader?

    what Palpatine did is not exactly gonna sit well with everyone in terms of Jedi's/force wielders being involved in politics.

    you could be 100% right Echo... but i'm gonna stay on the other side of the fence and think that Leia will be far removed from the public eye.
     
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