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There is a genuine backlash building against The Last Jedi

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by VOODOO, Dec 21, 2017.

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    Bunch of cherry pickers around here. All polls that say TLJ is great are good, all polls that say its bad are:

    1. Corrupted by Russians
    2. Tainted by Neckbeard hackers
    3. Unscientific
    4. tainted by bots and more bots
    5. Corrupted by fan boys upset by the mythical head cannon
     
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    Except that the supporters don't deny that the movie is polarizing and that a large minority of fans feel alienated by the way this trilogy is taking shape.
    That however is an entirely different thing than talk of "fan-backlash" and half the audience "hating" the movie - which is the subtext that some present.

    Why anyone would endeavor to seek refuge in the false safety of "majority-opinion" - on either side - is a mystery to me.
     
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    I didn't "attack" people for opinions. Everyone is entitled to them, no question. I "attacked" people for their actions, which in this case happen to be beyond stupid. Do you see the difference there? Everyone is free to believe whatever they want, but when they take ridiculous actions, they should expect criticism. And not just the constructive kind, because the world is not a "safe space".

    Did I do a good job explaining?
     
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    ----> nope

    People who signed a petition are the dregs of society attack away. (emperor)ROFL

    I agree hate safe spaces. I think you might wanna look in the mirror though.
     
    #324 Iwuvrey, Dec 22, 2017
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    Hmm...Did you sign that petition by any chance? Did you feel personally "attacked"?
     
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    People don’t like this depressing film. They wanted to see Han + Luke in further adventures and not be forced to go to their funeral and the box office is starting to show this.

    Forbes Magazine: Last Jedi grosses are collapsing
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/robcai...holds-of-all-9-star-wars-movies/#7c522443355c

    "Now that the initial weekend flush is behind it, that hot period when pretty much anything that had the Star Warsname on it could have earned $500 million worldwide, audience fervor for Star Wars: The Last Jedi has cooled off like a chilly winter evening on planet Hoth.

    In North America, daily holds for the Rian Johnson-directed flick have been significantly worse than those experienced by Rogue One: A Star Wars Story, and if the pattern continues The Last Jedi could actually wind up doing not much better than the 2016 spin-off movie.

    That, of course, would be a catastrophic result, akin to Warner/DC’s disastrous, money-losing fiasco with Justice League.

    Just as Justice League jammed all of DC’s biggest and most valuable superheroes into a single, swing-for-the-fences mash-up that failed to earn even as much as the single-hero, half-priced (yet far superior) Wonder Woman, so it appears that Disney may have turned the one-time opportunity to put Luke and Leia together in their last movie into an under-performing debacle that earns little more than the band-of-nobodies Rogue One

    After opening at nearly 90 percent of The Force Awakens' strength, The Last Jedi has steadily fallen behind, and by Wednesday, its 6th full day in release, it was holding its audience at a lesser rate than every one of the previous eight live action Star Wars movies. It had retained just 16 percent of its opening day gross, a figure that, as the chart below shows, is well below the holds for The Force Awakens, Rogue One, and the last of the prequels, Revenge of the Sith

    I wanted to avoid cluttering up the chart, but I could have added all five of the other previous Star Wars live action movies and the image would remain the same: The Last Jediis the rock-bottom, worst-holding movie of the entire 9-film franchise. Even Attack of the Clones looks like a champ in comparison.

    In fact, The Last Jedi isn't even holding as well as Justice League did. On its sixth day the DC film retained 27 percent of its opening day audience, nearly double what the Star Wars picture has done.

    If you object to comparing Last Jedi's daily grosses to the film's $104.6 million opening day with its $45 million in Thursday previews included, compare the grosses instead to the Saturday number. Or Sunday. Or Friday without the preview figures. The story is consistent: The Last Jedi is flying like a fat turkey in the Star Wars universe.

    The movie's flight trajectory will more than likely improve as schools let out for the holidays and Christmas week arrives. But the Yuletide competition has begun to boil with Downsizing, Father Figures, Pitch Perfect 3, The Greatest Showman and Jumanji all arriving in theaters to stake their claims on the box office. It's far from certain that The Last Jedi will hold its own against such an onslaught, especially since it's being led by Jumanji's Dwayne "The World's Biggest Movie Star" Johnson.


    Star Wars will survive, of course, in the domestic market and in the handful of territories where it's a successful legacy franchise. But in key markets like Korea and Mexico and China and India, places where The Force Awakens wasn't well received and audiences could go either way, The Last Jedi may burn that bridge, and truly turn off mass audiences from ever seeing another Star Wars movie again.
     
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    I don't know if their is a backlash against the film in the wider population, all i can say is i love star wars, and i go into every stars wars film wanting to love it, granted i will always be fair and constructive with my review after, but a star wars film will get the benefit of the doubt with me like no other film will ever get.

    I hated this film! i didn't want too, me and my mate sat in the pub for a few hours after literally trying to think of things we liked about the film we could hardly come up with any.

    It wasn't becuase Disney and Johnson took chances, i love that they had the balls to do that, its the film that those choices took place in, it was an utter mess, it was like they where so obsessed with throwing the audience curveballs they forgot to make a good film for those chances to take place in.

    Whats worse i'm not even excited about episode 9 now..... that idea saddens me so much the idea of not been incredibly excited to see another star wars films isn't something i ever thought id feel, but what is their to look forward to? Rey vs Kylo round 3 this time we've seen it all before twice!

    So i don't no if their is a backlash all i know is that the film came out and is that much of a mess that i can't find the good in it makes me sad.
     
    #327 Mosley909, Dec 22, 2017
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    No I said you did a good job if you read my posts again. Good job.
     
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    Why thank you, truth be told I've been feeling attacked lately, it's nice to get a pat on the back every once in a while.
     
    #329 Dawn, Dec 22, 2017
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    I can neither confirm nor deny that ;)
    What's your guess?
     
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    STAR WARS: THE LAST JEDI $17.89M Thursday
     
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    All of them?
     
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    The people that wanted this are misguided at best, and.... Transformer fans at worst. That's the best, most polite way I can put it.
     
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    Thats harsh. I mean, i am not saying that the TLJ fans is a bunch of Marvel fans. Or maybe i did btw.
     
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    Both the articles were very interesting! I know I am biased here because I did not like the movie, but I really hope that this movie will do bad in the box office. Something like that happening is the best way we will get a better movie for Episode IX. That being said, in terms of narrative, it feels like TLJ has done irreparable damage. Pretty hard to see how Disney could recover the narrative unless they bring back some of the characters by explaining away their deaths somehow.
     
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    i am glad....luke was a nothing character whose only interesting trait was who his dad was
     
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    Bullcrap. Look at the OT again.
     
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    Early estimates are in for the second weekend

    Deadline predicts a 62% decline and an $83 million three day weekend and a four day holiday total of $118 million and a two week total of $414 million
    http://deadline.com/2017/12/last-je...efron-greatest-showman-box-office-1202230784/
    --- Double Post Merged, Dec 23, 2017, Original Post Date: Dec 23, 2017 ---
    From Vanity Fair:

    What will fan backlash mean for the future of Star Wars?
    https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2017/12/little-gold-men-star-wars
     
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    LOL, you've got a post by an unpaid blogger at Forbes. Paid writers speak differently of the money TLJ is making:

    http://variety.com/2017/film/news/star-wars-the-last-jedi-box-office-christmas-weekend-1202648308/
     
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