There is a genuine backlash building against The Last Jedi

Expectations are?

Less than TFA. Everybody knows this. It's up 34% over Rogue One, so it's performing as a Star Wars sequel film would in 2017, still winning the box office. The same article addresses it.

"UPDATED, Friday midday: This year it is a tricky holiday to project at the North American box office, especially with Sunday being Christmas Eve, and business expected to nosedive beginning Saturday then spike considerably Christmas Day.

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"Slowing down numbers this week is the fact there aren’t as many kids out of school as a year ago, read 17% K-12 were off on Wednesday versus 38% last year. That’s when Universal/Illumination’s Sing opened to $11M on Wednesday, leading to a five-day cume of $55.9M and six-day cume of $75.5M. Christmas Eve on Sunday doesn’t help any of the films’ three-day figures. Where the studios will benefit is in the New Year: On January 2, there will be 69% K-12 out with another 50% on January 3, 40% on January 4 and 40% on January 5. That’s more than double the amount of elementary and high schools out on a daily basis than at the beginning of 2017."

 

You must not follow the box office very often, because 62% while slightly higher end than the around 55% normal for most blockbusters, is still expected. Spider-Man homecoming and several superhero films have fallen this much in their second week. Especially this year. And SW opened way above them and have higher projections.

You keep ignoring people's points because they do not follow your doom peddling agenda.

TLJ is living up to expectations. And stop comparing it to TFA because that was the first SW film in ten years, it had tons of insane marketing angles to exploit with that, first films make more than second films in trilogies esp SW, and its target audience was already out. Yes, TFA opened on a front loaded week, while the week before XMAS that TLJ opened on is known for being way less.

So everyday this week when you compared TLJ v TFA on the "same" day was really two different weeks with way different profit margins.

You also refuse to address the fact that TLJ is so far only 23% behind TFA, and far from R1.

I wonder why...oh yeah you want to be right and refuse to address points that go against your agenda.

I checked up on box office stats (especially on the Reddit box office page which I hadn't been following for a while, and trust me they make a point of talking about the BO throughout the year on many more films than you or I do) and they are way more positive and optimistic than you.

Again, I wonder why. Heck I was more afraid than I should've been.

This weekend will prove the OT fans are no longer the target main demographic. Disney have been targeting children and teenagers and when they buoy the BO, you'll be proven wrong.

 

Please note that those are two articles that should be one article. The author is stating the same as the deadline article addresses, the box office is limited by the holiday schedule this year. It's the same information with Forbes writer taking a position with a clickbait title.

You want to judge the box office during the holidays on the success of TFA. That's cute, but not an entire story. The size of the aggregate box office for all films is informative, and why consumers are at the box office and when they are going to the movies also counts. The Deadline article explains it all and updated in the middle of Friday. The Forbes writer, who's probably Xmas shopping, is unlikely to update after releasing both articles at 8AM.

 

I checked up with some of my old BO buddies and they knocked some sense into me. I am currently laughing pretty hard at myself and the people on this forum because I realised one little fact the op doesn't; Star Wars has simply become a Disney franchise, like marvel. They release a film ever year, or several, and they are front loaded blockbusters with huge margin drops.

62% is completely normal. Heck Spider-Man homecoming dropped the same, and that made a profit and opened less.

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Dude, you always pick the worst comparisons. Guess why justice league dropped so low...it had a low opening because noone went so see it (not even 100 million). A tiny audience that got tinier by the second weekend.

It suggests to me you know nothing. And you're still continuing to ignore my counter points. Plus you moved the goalposts. First it was "the film is already a failure" and know it's "after New Years".

 

Here is a bunch of bots created by the alternative right:

 

Meanwhile 133,197 voters liked TLJ and only 23,957 did not of the total 180,000+ voters on IMDB.....there goes the backlash argument. Got anything else?

 

Bots created by DailyPlunge.

 

If those who hate TLJ can somehow find a way to interpret the stats, or even influence the stats moving forward to make it that half the fans on negative about the movie, do you really think Disney won't react?

SW is Disney's cash cow, even more so than Marvel. If it is perceived that they took a direction that loses them that sure fire billion per movie because they lose long time fandom in exchange for new fans who come and go, you don't think Disney will try and "fix" the issues long time fans have? Especially if it can be done in a way that more or less keeps most of the new or casual fan?

TLJ has many points that fans don't like, they don't need to reconstruct everything, even only doing some could possibly get fans back, and let's face it, some of those decision could be easily pulled back. I think that was deliberate. Phasma could still be alive. Rey could still be a fan theory Skywalker clone or Kenobi ect... Snoke can still exist as a force ghost and thus be further developed. I'm sure there are more ways they can change perception on many events in TLJ if they really wanted to. It might disappoint, discourage or anger some fans, but it might bring some more back.

Regardless, I think every SW movie moving forward is going to split fans, and bring in new ones. That's what happens when you have 2 trilogies that are cannon plus all the other material, people have expectations. It's not that fans want a rehash of everything that's been done, but the universe has created rules and fans will perceive those rules getting broken when the creative team strays too far from what some fans perceived as "established" laws of the GFFA.

 

Do people really hate this movie this much?

 

No they do not

 

Yeah, whenever a big movie comes out, there's always seems to be a group of people that hate it no matter what.

 

Yeah, people are just hating to hate. No way people actually think for themselves and decide that they didn't like something you like.

 

The title of the thread is "Backlash building..."......backlash leads one to believe some sort of majority of moviegoers did not like the movie. Several polls show differently.