SPECULATION Who's Who in The Force Awakens?

I have a niece who looks nothing like the rest of the family, but I write it off as 'momma was a ho.' Otherwise....well.

I'm feeling lately like Han/Leia and Luke have no kids. Why would Daisy/Kira be on sand-planet-maybe-Tattooine all by her lonesome? I could dig Driver as a Solo, but maybe from a different mamma. Solo got around...don't act like he didn't. Yeeeeeaaahhhhhh....Solo got around boiiiii.

From my perspective, everyone doesn't need to be related in this thing. It would make it way too "Dallas" for me if everyone in the entire story is the spawn of someone else that we already know. Lupita is Lando's daughter? Why? Let's just agree on 'no.'

 

John Boyega: That kid from the Rebels episode where Ezra is training with the Imperials, and the kid decides to remain behind with the Stormtroopers. It just screams link to Episode VII.

Daisy Ridley: My mistress

Oscar Isaacs: Pilot, not necessarily a bigger part than this - a bit like Wedge Antilles' role in the classic trilogy. Or maybe he's got more of a Ric Ollié vibe to him: "And look over there! Those are forested hills covered with mist."

Adam Driver: There are so many theories about Driver and his character and I'm not a big enthusiast of any of them, really. I can't imagine what kind of role I'd feel fits Adam in a Star Wars movie but he's in it, so ... I don't think he's a Solo, and I don't think he's a Sith Lord (or rather, don't want him to be one)...but there was this picture of him in a pilot uniform, wasn't there? So maybe he's a pilot too, perhaps even flying along with Oscar across that lake in the teaser trailer. Why not? There are so many actors attached to this picture...

Domnhall Gleeson: A Jedi, not necessarily a Skywalker; I don't believe (at the moment) that he's Luke Skywalker's son or anything, but might just be a Jedi who has trained under him (recent casting rumors suggest the Jedi are present and correct, after all)

Max van Sydow: Either he is indeed a cybernetic veteran of the civil war between the Empire and the Rebellion, or he is a Sith Lord/evil character. I'm fine with any of those, and if I had to place a bet, I'd put it on the veteran character. Nobody said these people need huge roles; after all, most of the screentime will probably be devoted to Boyega and Ridley; the host of actors signed on to this thing might just mean the rest have small but significant parts to play eh?

Gwendoline Christie: She might just be the broadsaber wielder, but I have a feeling she'll be playing something else, either a Jedi or an Imperial officer of some sort.

Miltos, Lupita: Jedi under Master Skywalker's tutelage (Miltos especially, chosen for his fencing style acting abilities, same with some of the other announced actors).

The more I think about the more certain I've become that - despite my own misgivings about it - we will see many JEDI KNIGHTS but functioning more in the Samurai/Ronin/Outlaw-style than the boring talking heads of the prequels. Boy, they all had prequelitis.

Maybe that's why Ridley has a hard time finding Luke (assuming this is a plotline) - Luke and his posse are constantly on the move, constantly out of sight/in the shadows, these legendary last of the JEDI fighting the good fight.

 

Not a chance, that was almost 40 years before VII. Boyega would have to be in his 50's.

I disagreed with your other stuff but that's mostly just a matter of opinion, no point in arguing about it.

 

Oh yeah you're right! Somehow I keep thinking Ezra is post-JEDI. My bad

 

I speculate he is that character's son.

 

A relative makes sense in a way, breaks my rule of don't make every black guy related but I could see it. We will have to see the eventual fate of that guy first since the Inquisitor grabbed him

 

I feel that making Boyega a Calrissian is contrived and unnecessary. Lando himself isn't necessary.
But I realized we forget that Warwick Davis has a role!
Will Wicket return?

 

I think that random dude from the pod-race arena will return.

 

There was an april fools joke one year where Star Wars said that was actually Willow in exile from his former "planet"

 

That's hillarious.

 

Assuming the rumor that Driver plays a bad guy is true, and assuming the drone shot of Driver inn X-wing uniform is actually Driver, could that shot be part of an elaborate mystery box move to throw the fans off Driver as a bad guy? Could Driver walking across the set in an X-wing uniform have been orchestrated?

(I appologize if this has been asked and possibly debunked before. There's just too much stuff on here to wade through it all...)

 

Using existing rumors, expanded universe and your own Sherlocky skill...try to name the character of the cast and describe who they'll be. Extra points for nailing everything about a character, including species and if they die in the film. Winner gets to eat a Mon Calamarian prepared by our best chefs.

Returning Characters:
Carrie Fisher/Queen Leia Organa Solo - (Human) Chancellor of the Republic Faction and Queen of New Alderran.
Harrison Ford-/General Han Solo- (Human) Retired General of the Republic, Captain of the Millennium Falcon.
Peter Mayhew/Chewbecca- (Wookie) Hans Loyal friend and copilot of the Millennium Falcon.
Mark Hamil/ Luke Skywalker (Human) - Jedi Master/Hermit
Kenny Baker/R2-D2- Astromech Droid- In Leia's possession.
Anthony Davis/C3PO- Protocol Droid- In Leia's possession

New Main Cast-
Oscar Isaac/Captain Gavin Darklighter- (Human) Nephew of Biggs and Red Leader.
Adam Driver/Bail Anakin Solo/Dark Ruin- (Human) Son of Han and Leia. Power Hungry pilot and force user.
Disney Ridley/Breha Solo (Human)- Daughter of Leia and Han. In hiding because of assasination of her sister, she is one of Luke's apprentices.
John Boyega/Deak Leonis- (Human) Former storm trooper, new apprentice to Luke Skywalker.
Gwendolyn Christie/General Pell/Inquistor and Chrome Trooper. She is tasked with hunting down Deak. (Dies in VII)
Domnhall Gleeson/Lt. Ben Lars/- Luke Son who is also on side of empire faction.
Andy Serkis/Darth Uber - Sith Master and apprentice to Plagueis( Dies in VII) I think he is also played by Miltos Yrelomou for the stunts.
Lupita Nyong'o/Empress Nomi Palpatine- a daughter of Palpatine who is now empress of the empire faction and Leia's rival.
Max Von Sydow/Montross- (Cyborg/Human)
Benedict Cumberbatch/Darth Plagueis- Revealed at the end.


Lesser cast
Pip Anderson (Natolan) Jedi apprentice (Dies in VII)
Crystal Clarke- (Twilek) Jedi apprentice (Dies in VII)
Simon Pegg (Four arm alien)
Massie Richards-Seller/Korr Sella - Emissary
Christina Chong Stunt double for Ridley.
Dixie Arnold- (Human) Rebel Soldier
Warwick Davis (Unknown Alien)

 

Hmm....

OK. I note that I did read the Admiral Thrawn series in the EW and several other novels, but I have forgotten just about everything about them.

Leia is President of the New Galactic Republic, the successor to President Mon Mothma's extraordinarily popular Presidency. They wanted MM to stay in power after her two eight year terms were finished, but she refused, saying that to stay in power without term limits would make her little better than the Emperor. The Republic's democracy was always fragile because of being comprised of so many disparate worlds, so far apart. Alderaan was a major force of stability, thanks to the extraordinary popularity of Senator Bail Organa, who was on track to become Chancellor had Palpatine not seized power, and that has contributed to Leia's ongoing but increasingly controversial standing with the people of the Republic. Now Leia is in the same position Mon Mothma was, with the additional wrinkle (or white hair?) being that she has no obvious successor whom she trusts to continue a course of democracy. Because of the Imperial/Sith/Dark resurgence, many of her former confederates have gone with the hot hand (ha), and are running as Imperial-friendly opponents of Leia's party. Her dilemma: Does she step down? Does she stay in power, using emergency executive authority the way Palpatine did - and consequently squashing the nascent democracy she had tried so hard to build? Or does she step aside and watch the bad guys get elected? What to do? What to do? Isn't there anyone to run as her successor? She is holed up in her office, snapping at people.

Luke is off being a hermit and worrying about his power. See, the problem with Luke is that he was never fully trained as a light side Jedi. He didn't spend a decade or more under Yoda's tutelage, and his father's ideas penetrated more than he would like to admit or acknowledge. Force ghosts of the old masters appear to him, but he isn't certain whether they are real messengers of the light, there to continue his philosophical training, or evidence of creeping madness. Domnhall Gleeson is his son, by Mara Jade, but he was conceived in a moment of profound weakness for Luke, when he had considered abandoning his calling to 'pass on what he has learned', and Mara was some chick he met in the Cantina on Tattooine. She knew who he was and wouldn't reveal her identity lest he know that she was a child apprentice to the Emperor, whom Palpatine had even considered as a replacement for Vader had Palpy had to kill him after all. But Mara is no longer of the dark side, and while Luke sensed her Force aptitude, given her age and his own disillusionment with Jedi Masterdom, he declined to deepen their acquaintance, though he was powerfully drawn to her. So yeah, she and Luke are Domnhall's parents, but Luke doesn't know consciously that he has a son.. He has been troubled by dreams of a child throughout the boy's life, however. He is in occasional contact with Leia. He desperately wants to come back and fulfill his mission, but unbeknownst to him, he is at the critical 'tempted in the desert' phase of his development, which all advanced Jedi experienced, but which Luke encounters alone.

Han and Leia are not divorced, but they were never the most compatible pair, with their union driven by passion and by Leia's feeling that Han was everything she had been brought up not to be. Things were ok as long as she was just an underling, but when she became President, her training as a future queen back on Alderaan began to reassert itself. She was less and less tolerant of her dashing maverick's 'seat of the pants' ways, and she had less and less time for him and their two children, who spent a great deal of time with their Uncle Luke before his exile. Han, never really a military man, grew weary of commanding reconditioned star destroyers, missed Chewy, and decided to retire from the service and start up a legitimate business, a franchise of his old frenemy Lando's hugely successful manufacturing empire. He was away from Leia for weeks, then for months - now for years. He bristles at being a businessman as well, but at least he has more freedom to be himself than as 'first man' of the Galactic Republic, meeting with dignitaries and kissing arse.

Luke has not taught Kira since childhood, and for the past ten years she has lived on Tattooine with a shadowy mentor who is revealed to be her adoptive grandfather, Bail Organa. Organa survived the destruction of Alderaan because he had left in a transport headed to Coruscant only hours before the Deathstar was spotted in orbit around the planet. There was not even time to send a hail before the planet was destroyed, and Organa's wife was killed, along all his old friends and family and the remnants of his life there. Moreover, Leia had disappeared ... he later was able to communicate secretly with Mon Mothma, who informed him of Leia's survival. He found out through Rebel channels that the Larses and Obiwan had been killed by Vader and, as the only two remaining who were in on the plot to hide Vader's children, he sought out Yoda on Dagobah. Yoda advised him to remain in hiding, then died before he could give Bail the all clear. So Bail Organa has been hiding in plain sight in a refugee camp on Tattooine. Some years prior, he had been reunited with Leia, who thought it best that he take Kira into hiding with him, as there had been threats against the President's family. So there they are. She is Force Sensitive and has basic Jedi training, as well as natural talent as a Force User. She is, as one person said, a "wisecracking chip off the old smuggler."

(Very long, to be continued!)

 

Boyega's Stormtrooper is also Alderaanian, by coincidence. He grew up in refugee camps on Naboo, which were situated in the scary, swampy region of the planet, not the pretty place with the waterfalls. There was no real future for him except to go into the military, and he chose the Imperials purely because they paid more. Naboo had gone back and forth for decades between the Republic and the New Empire, and it was not the idyllic place it had once been even in its most picturesque regions. Boyega finds himself being able to hear the thoughts of his fellow stormtroopers as they sit readying themselves to pour out of their transports, and he hears them in his dreams, much to his confusion and angst. He too fears he is going mad. He has heard of the Jedi, thinking of them as a bizarre, traitorous cult that had nearly been stamped out.

Oscar Isaac is Kira's Force-adept older brother, who has had about the same amount of Jedi training as his sister, or even a bit more, as he is a couple of years older. He is hardened by battle and feeling as if the Republic is glacially losing its grip on power. He wants to take the battle to the real enemies, but he does not know who they are. He is a hotshot pilot and a true blue friend and comrade.

Domnhall Gleeson is also a fighter for the Republic. He is best friends with Oscar but has no idea they are related. he too keeps his Force-adeptness firmly under wraps. He has his grandfather's emotional lability, though it is not expressed in a way that suggests he might find solace in the dark side... yet. He accepts his mother's explanation that he was a one-night stand and that she does not know who or where his father is. Yeah I know, I don't put money on that passing muster with Disney, but whatever.

Lupita Nyong'o is the granddaughter of Lando Calrissian. She is a beautiful socialite, whom Kira and John meet aboard the Millennium Falcon, where she is working alongside Han and Chewy learning about import, exports and smuggling. John is instantly smitten. She may or may not be Force Sensitive, though it would be fun to see her with a lightsaber. I think she ends up as Leia's political protegee.

Adam Driver is the great-grandson of Count Dooku. He is a strong Force-Adept and was one of Luke's first pupils, though his background was not revealed to Luke during his years of study, only that he was the great-grandson of a master Jedi (maybe they even give the non-Sith name of Dooku, which I don't know). He is in love with Daisy and, when they are reunited, he makes a tremendous play for her. However, he is a secret Sith who despises Vader for having killed Palpatine, whom he idolizes.

Gwendolyn Christie is a cool, efficient, very model of a modern Inquisitor/Commander. As a Sith sympathizer, she is the only one who knows Adam's true identity and calling, leading him to kill her at the end, making himself look like the good guy who slew the bad ole villainess, when in fact he did so to keep her quiet.

Andy Serkis is Darth Destructo, Sith recovered either in the flesh or in the spirit on Moraband by Darth Adam. Adam is his apprentice.

That's all I've got for now.

 

Is this a game or speculation thread? There's already a thread for this unless it's a game I will move to the casino forum.

 

Could be both, just thought it would be fun to see what others come up with.

Sorry, didn't realize there was already a thread, I guess you could merge or lock this one.

 

One merge coming up!

 

I agree. Driver is a Nimoy-like actor of great talent. He needs the right niche role that he can really become a legend in. I do not see him as a Skywalker or a Solo, but as something with which we are less familiar.

All I care about is that we get even a TENTH of the scenery-chewing that we got with Ian Mc! What a gleeful villain!

 

That would be funny as hell. I can imagine Lando popping up and Han taking out his blaster and Lando has got his hands up saying "Hey Han old buddy" with Billy Dee Williams charismatic smile. But it would explain han and Leia's separation lol

 

If Billie Lourd is in the film, as Debbie Reynolds apparently confirmed, why does it have to be in a flashback? She is Fisher's daughter, so couldn't she play the daughter in the movie? Also, if Lourd doesn't have a major role, at least in Ep 7, could it be that some children are in the movie but not in major roles? Perhaps Lourd is Fisher's assistant (and daughter) on Coruscant and isn't high profile yet. Maybe she'll take the spotlight in 8 or 9? Just a thought...