Why Snoke is a Sith

Agree with you 100%. I do believe, however, that there is a link between Snoke and the Sith. He isn't one, but he observed the Emperor and was inspired by him in one form or another.

 

There's a link alright....he used to be Palpatine's master.

 

There's another thread for that.

 

For those who can't accept the story group's assertion that Snoke isn't Sith... why would they lie about it? It's not that big of a deal either way. If it were important Pablo would just ignore questions about it.

I don't get it.

It's kind of weird what people have trouble accepting. Snoke is a new character. He's not Sith.

 

Why wouldn't they lie about it? The unknown creates interest in the film and if it's already confirmed that Snoke is a Sith and furthermore, Plaguies, then not as many fans will lineup outside the theater. Which will have a negative effect on the movies bottom line. The exact opposite of what Lucasfilm wants, which is to generate maximum profits.

They have literally millions of reasons to lie.

 

Snoke is either:

Plagueis who is no longer Sith.
That Gallias Rax guy from Aftermath: Life Debt.
Or an ancient being that was in a tomb on Jakku.

 

You can tell a theory is on its last legs when it's dependent on this kind of logic. The only people who even know who Plaguies is are super fans who are going to see every Star Wars film.

Or someone from the unknown regions of space who rose up through the First Order.
Or someone in the New Republic Senate using a different name.

They cut out the part with Snoke with a young boy. I think he's been around for a long time, but he didn't reveal himself until later. He might even been involved in the napkin incident in Bloodline.

 

Was just about to edit my post and say "ancient being from Jakku tomb/or unknown regions"!

I really hope not else it literally is going to be Palpatine-lite 2.0.

I'm not up to date with this stuff, please enlighten me...!

 

Here's a good synopsis of the event. It stands out because this was an element that came directly from Rian Johnson.

 

jeez, this thread

firstly, it has been confirmed that no Sith are in TFA. that means Kylo AND Snoke are NOT Sith. whether or not they venerate the Sith is beside the point; they're not following that path.

secondly, Maz delivers lines in TFA that point to the fact that TFO is NOT the Sith; when she says how first you had the Sith, then the Empire, and now the TFO, she's drawing differences between each group while saying yes, they are all of the Dark Side.

thirdly, Jedi should never have an "s" at the end unless to show ownership (looking at you @FallenAngel )

fourthly, Sith lord was actually established well before the PT came out; in fact, Vader was referred to as a Lord of the Sith as early as ESB (though not specifically in the OT films).

fifthly, when Palps is luring Anakin to the Dark Side about studying all aspects of the Force, he's totally just baiting him. as has been mentioned, Palps doesn't have any light side in him, he was just playing on Anakin's preexisting predilection for the Jedi.

sixth, how would lying about Snoke being a Sith create more unknown elements to generate interest? if Snoke did turn out to be a Sith it wouldn't be creative at all; lying about it being the only way of generating hype is a pretty poor strategy.

seventh, on Snoke's scars being from a light saber: i cannot recall ever having heard this before, so i call shenanigans.

also, because people are still clinging to this, Plagueis is DEAD and is NOT Snoke. i'm sure you'll all be pissed once 8 & 9 come out, and will have any number of reasons to hate the ST because your theories turned out to be bunk, but thems the facts!

on Snoke, i'm not sure where he came across his understanding of the Force and the Dark Side (and clearly none of us do!), but if he used ancient Sith holocrons, or learned bits and pieces from other sources, that doesn't necessarily make him part of those factions. a weird example: a Christian archaeologist can interpret ancient Egyptian hieroglyphs to get a better understanding of their own religion's history; does that make the Christian archaeologist a pagan? no! they just used information to better understand/justify their beliefs. for all we know Snoke learned about the Dark Side from studying ancient Jedi artifacts about the old Sith Empire from a thousand years prior; since he learned from Jedi artifacts about the Sith, does that make him a Jedi or a Sith?

as for the walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, you could say Snoke is like the Nightsisters, or the Sith, or a fallen Jedi; similar tactics doesn't mean similar beliefs. if you think about it that way then the guerrilla tactics used by ISIS is no different than the guerrilla tactics used by the Minutemen in the American Revolutionary War; i mean, they both ambush regularly and ignore the rules of engagement! MUST be the same thing!

 

It's been confirmed countless times that Snoke is not a Sith. At least not at the time that TFA takes place.

So nice clickbait thread.

 

Provide us with one example where the Sith use the light side/compassion, selflessness and love.

 

Are you really that clouded? Lucas, the prequels, and The Clone Wars have all confirmed there's only two at one time. George Lucas has said Anakin brings balance to the force by destroying the Sith.

What were the Nightsisters and Bardottans then? What are the Bendu?

 

That's not lore though. George Lucas has never contradicted established lore from his film or TV show.

 

lol dude, you're pretty out of touch!

Snoke was DEFINITELY around for a while prior to TFA. read the canon books and get back to us

Vader was most DEFINITELY labeled a Lord of the Sith in Star Wars related material during the OT era (70's-80's). look it up. as i originally stated they don't mention this name in the films, but it was definitely a part of the lore.

where you got the idea that Sith want a full understanding of the Force is beyond me. care to back up that up?

saying that there have only been Jedi or Sith EVER is completely ignoring several other Force users/sensitives. Maz has sensitivity, the Nightsisters use the Force, you have the brother & sister story line from TCW; need i go on?

as for the Sith coming back, that may be a possibility, but it would fly in the face of everything we've been hearing from credited sources. as for them lying to us about this, like JJ did with Khan, i doubt they'd fumble like that again. it was stupid at the time and it would be stupid now.

 

What? Lucas always planned to tell Anakin's story. He had the chance to move ahead with the prequels or the sequels in the 80s, and he chose the prequels. This allowed him to bring forth concepts he'd previously had to leave on the script cutting room floor.