Will Rey turn to the dark side?

Well...she did also abandon Kylo when he needed her the most. Thus Leia is quite the bad guy really....abandoning her kids left and right...ohmfg....can she be...SNOKE???
Jesting....a question though. Why would Leia left her child with a slave driver like Unkar then return to the comfort of her rich comfortable life of a princ....i mean... general?

 

You know, I do kinda like the idea that Rey finding out she's been lied to causes her to go to the dark side.

After all, the dark side is rooted in passion and selfishness- though, not inherently evil.
What does Rey have to lose? Her identity. She has no idea who she really is (as we fans are all too well aware) and stand to gain much by learning it. If she becomes to attached to this idea of an identity, she could find herself deeply entrenched in the dark side.

The way Disney has been treating The Force, though, makes it possible that the passion that Rey may feel for this may lead her to the Dark Side, but she might also embrace that power as something positive. I can't say for certain, but I think we may soon see a more nuanced take on the Force in the next film outside of "Light Side= Good, Dark Side= Bad".

That's true as well. Perhaps its not her quest for an identity that sparks her to the Dark Side, but rather what that identity ends up being.

 

If she finds out she was denied that identity though...she was denied a life...a good life....by someone who is supposed to be a "good guy"....

If she is left by Leia who could be her mom, aunt...concerned sister of a Jedi Master....why would she want to serve Leia?

If she is left by Luke who could be her dad, uncle, concerned Jedi Master...possible murderer of her family...why would she want to serve under Luke....

 

Don't worry she won't. Kennedy won't allow her flag ship female hero to become evil.

If go by whats on screen - Rey doesn't shoot. Kylo has a lightsaber and earlier in the movie he easily dealt with ehr shooting at him. Kylo attacks her in a way that she could have easily been killed and was hurt. So you can't claim her safety was that high a priority (if it was, why would he engage her at all, just freeze ehr again....)

You want to disregard the script because it doesn't back up the narrative you've created, but the script shows us the film makers intention and vision, which was to show Rey's power, to show Rey over powering him not once but twice. Point is - no, Kylo was pushed back by Rey during the fight and wasn't able to simply kill her at moment but was unable to.

THe issue with Rey winning this fight is she doesn't know what shes doing. You have all the confidence in the world - you get into a fight with someone more experieinced and better trained (and in this case, when you have no training yousrelf), you're going to lose. I am a sword fighter, trust me. And not even JUST this - she does this with ever challenge she faces. What challenge does Rey face that she needs someone to handle for her?

 

All true, there is much we don't know about Rey, and much of it is likely to define her character.

I could even see her struggling with darkness if it turns out that her lineage is rather unimportant, kind of breaking the "Chosen One" vibe that she may wish was true.

 

There's a lot of ways they could play it.
Personally, I don't want it because it's just more shades of Anakin/Luke.
I want to see her stay good, like Obi-Wan and Kylo just get further and further lost in the dark side.

Sets up a new trilogy with a defined "big bad" in the ultimate evil Kylo Ren.
And the beleaguered hero Rey

 

Have you ever fought a woman you loved?

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Plus...if she is a Mary Sue than he wouldnt succed in throwing her to the tree. There would have been no fight.
Dunno about the intentions from written word. I always thought its both script and interpretation of the actoe that determins the end result.

We will see soon who is right.

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You think OB1 was good? In PT he us arrogance incarnate...specially in RotS. Thats why he sacrificed himself in ANH, no? Cuz he KNEW the error of his younger self ways?

 

All the time.

Taking a hit then coming back adn winning doesn' = not a mary sue.

Even inthe scene, On their way up to the ridge Kylo is clearly pushing the attack and can't land a hit (as Is aid, an experienced swordsman would be able to be disarm or injure without killing a beginner pretty easy), then he is totally on the defensively while Rey pushes the attack.

 

Do you ever hit her so it hurts?

But its not perfect?

Why doesnt an experienced attacker counter when she is pushing? She was left open many a time during that part if the fight...Im sure you've seen it, if I did. Her swings are rather slow. He could have delivered a strike to her torso..or legs....then she would be on the floor. But that would hurt her. How can he disarm her if she holds the lightsaber firmly with both hands? He cant disarm her. He can hurt her he choses not to. Why doesnt he want to hurt her? Cuz he is not the emotionless ultimate badass evilness and never was but was just faking it?
And an excellent question...why not use the stasis on her now? Cuz he cant. If he could it would be the solution to all his problems. But he cant..Cuz he is not the emmotionless ultimate badass evilness and never was but was just faking it?

 

I think the idea of taking characters in directions that are unexpected gives us a clue that Rey will not turn to the dark side. She's been the inverse of Luke up to this point. She wanted to be on Jakku. She didn't want to be a Jedi. She doesn't want the burden. Luke can't wait to get off Tatooine. He totally wants to be a Jedi.

I think we see Luke want so badly to be a Jedi, but I think we will see the inverse with Rey. She will continually fight against the burden. Something will force her to finally accept the burden. What that is? Not sure yet. Most likely love and family. My guess is she will accept the burden by the end of the trilogy in an effort to reconnect with her family. Whoever that may be and in whatever way that may be.

 

Oh man, you really gotta stop setting them up like that. Way too hard to take the high road here.

 

Whaaat? Its a legitimate question? Im curious.
Everyone I ever fought held back. It pisses me off, tbh. And i do appreciate a man who regards a woman as equal. Specially if he has feelings for her.

 

Obi-Wan was good as he saw it. It's something I hated about the prequels.
I hated that it turned the Jedi into emotionless monks who didn't actually seek to do good on the "light side" they were all just morally ambiguous assholes.

Should *some* of the Jedi have been that way to show the varying levels? Yes. But every single one was just...so morally grey it never felt like there was a true "light side"

In the OT, you saw it clear...Between the destruction of Alderaan, torture of Leia and self-sacrifice of Ben...the stark differences between good and evil.

The PT made it seem like, why would I want the Jedi to win? Hell, why would I want any of these factions to win honestly....

I get what Lucas was trying to do, unsuccessfully IMO, but I don't think it changes that Obi-Wan was the "light" before Luke was there.

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Sorry but if we got in a fight and I didn't hold back there's an incredibly high chance I would cripple you.
I get "equality" but if I hit a woman who isn't Brienne of Tarth, I would do serious damage and I don't want that on my conscious.

 

Thats my point. They were good. The jedi. But also arrogant. Failed to see they are so much like the Sith...exclusivistic.

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So you agree Kylo held back? and that is an arrogant presumption, if I might add.

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Oh...i forgot:

 

Of course Kylo held back, I thought the filmmakers went to extensive lengths to make sure it was easy to see he did.
Arrogance does not mean lack of goodness. Ben was all good, arrogant but in the best of intentions kind of way.

Maybe. But I've been in enough fights to know lol.

 

Yes. We are all made if both light and dark good and bad
Dunno what Ben was when he was light. I would say disapointed more than arrogant...but let us hope we will see

If you have been in a lot of fights but always held back with women then how do you know what they can do? I presume you are a big man, massive..from the way you speak. That makes you slow.

 

Sounds like @GreyLo has some experience in a fight. I don't know if my chances would be great.

 

I like women who give as good as they get.

As far as holding back? I'm not sure he held back because she was a girl. He underestimated her abilities and didn't want to damage her as he wanted to train her. It had nothing to do with being a girl.

 

dont worry...i only fight for real the men i love

 

Never physically hit a woman. Been hit by them. But never hit back.
That is a poor movie trope. Big, but athletic. Trained to hit people hard and not be hit.