SPECULATION OFFICIAL Finn Discussion Thread

ohh, they definitely changed directions with him. Felt like he and rey were originally going to have 2 completely separate stories,but with hans injury the story changed quite a bit. JJ made 2 comments that tell me finns story isn't meant to be a side story to reys epic journey. I would still give it an 85% chance on him being a force user but i don't think he will be a jedi in this trilogy.

If she is to be a jedi and he a rebel commando that would sever that bond

so IS he a traitor? what do you mean by "he thinks" JJ? makes you wonder if finn is really a top first order operative or knight of Ren planted by snoke

 

He made a impact in this one.

 

Honestly, I don't know whether they plan on making Finn a Jedi, but it's doubtful to me still.

 

I doubt the jedi path is his destiny, if it was, we would've seen it TFA.

 

Star Wars website say other wise also that he also has a connection to the force look what their website site:

"Rey’s life changed when she encountered BB-8, a Resistance astromech carrying a star chart offering a clue to the location of the long-lost Jedi master Luke Skywalker. Rey and the renegade stormtrooper Finn forged an unlikely friendship, escaping Jakku and finding themselves caught in a galactic war – with both of their destinies shaped by the awakened power of the Force." http://www.starwars.com/databank/rey

With both of their destines shaped by the awakened power of the force, you guys need stop being hatters on Finn.​

 

Finn's destiny is shaped by the force awakened in Rey. Rey's destiny is shaped by the awakening within herself. This doesn't mean Finn is a force user. It means that Finn's journey has been influenced and shaped by Rey's actions or inactions (like when she initially refused to take Luke's lightsaber and it was temporarily given to Finn). That lead to Finn confronting Kylo Ren and becoming critically injured as a result. That injury will send him on a seperate journey to Rey in the last Jedi but ultimately has put him on a path he wouldn't have been on if it were not for Rey.

 

You have reading comprehending problems " with both of their destinies shaped by the awakened power of the Force." Both of their destines shaped by the awakens powers of the force" not Finn meeting Rey influence him, read what their don't make up what not written. Their destines shaped by the awakens powers of the force meaning their destines is related to the force. When Finn in the beginning for the force awakwens is awaken and he helps Poe escape there no Rey on the ship, when Finn decided not to kill those people there was no Rey there and he had no influence of her, he did not even know her at that point its the Force that influence him. Read what is there, not what's not there.

--- Double Post Merged, Jul 18, 2017, Original Post Date: Jul 18, 2017 ---

Who said Rey is a Jedi right now Luke is the last jedi, Rey is not right now, neither do you know if Luke will train her until the movie come out or will Luke make her a Jedi. There some clues in the Force Awakens that, there might not be no more Jedi after Luke, because the First Order Snoke and Kylo Ren do not call themselves Sith or Sith Lords and they don't have in front of their names Darth, it can because the Darkside has evolved into something else base upon some new teachings and learning from the mistakes of the Sith. So this means Luke can realize that the Jedi way of doing things do not work, and it appears Luke will be the last and only Jedi, and there will be a new order with it being Lightside Force Users of the Force verse the Darkside which it clear from the Force Awaken that the First Order is known as the Darkside of the force, which we hear in the beginning of TFA Kylo Ren being told that his is part of the Darkside.

 

I never once mentioned Rey being a Jedi. I simply said "force user" and there is a big difference. For instance maz is no jedi but she is a force user. A Jedi as you must know is someone who has been trained in the arts of the Jedi. Jedi is an ideaology, a religion as much as it is a fighting style that utilizes the light side of the force. I know Rey isn't a Jedi, yet she is strong with the force.

 

Isn't a bit premature to call Maz a force user though? She's clearly force sensitive but doesn't actively do anything that makes me think she can use the force.

 

you still dont make no sense.

 

Reading comprehending problems? You are very condescending as well as misguided. You think those words have any objectivity? My friend that quote is subjective and open to interpretation. I'll break it down for you just to be equally condescending. First of all define "destiny" for me because that in itself is such an objective concept, not! I'll give you an example in relation to Rey. It was destiny (the force) that brought Rey to maz's castle and discover Luke's old lightsaber. The force seemed (all subjective) to want Rey to have Luke's lightsaber (it called to her). Was it the will of the force (again subjective) for her to reject the lightsaber? It was her fear that caused her to reject it. So as a result it was given to Finn but not by the will of the force (it seems) but as a result of Rey not taking it. Through all of the movie the force awakened and was calling Rey to meet her "destiny" (whatever that is). It awakened in her skills she didn't know she had. The force shaped her destiny from the moment she met BB8, setting her on a path to eventually meet Luke. That was all part of her destiny. For Finn his destiny is also shaped by the force but to me indirectly. It was actually his decision to not kill innocent civillians and rescue Poe and go AWOL that set him on his path to meet his destiny. Was his decision to start that journey motivated by the awakening of the force (it seems unlikely) or was his decision based on morality, empathy and basic humanity ("It's the right thing to do"). There isn't any moment in the movie were he displays any force ability whatsoever. What motivates Finn it seems is a sense of doing the right thing coupled with Rey 's ability to save his skin multiple times. Even on Jakku if it wasn't for Rey's extraordinary piloting skills it's very likely Finn would have been killed by the first order. Likewise On Han's ship Rey was very nearly the cause of Finn's death as well as his saviour with the Rathtas. At the battle of Maz's castle he was almost killed by TR-8R if it weren't for Han. You said Finn and Rey are both related to the force (subjective). Finn is but only in a very indirect and superficial way. Rey's experience with the force is a definite relationship, connection and it comnunicates to her. Finn's Destiny has largely been shaped by Rey's actions and Rey's actions have been shaped and motivated by the force. So in a round about way Finn's Destiny has also been shaped (touched) by the force too. Does that make sense?

 

Think about how would it look 15 years after the Force Awakens people will look back at all the posters for Star Wars and say every one with a light saber is a Jedi or a Force User and Finn is not it don't make sense. This is the twist that many of you will be surprised with at the end of 9, that Finn will either be a Jedi or part of their new order. As George Lucas said Star Wars is like Poetry it has rhyme or a flow with it meaning a pattern I also believe so with the poster, Finn with the Light Saber was to make you think he is a Jedi, who said he will not be a Jedi or a Force User? This is what i am saying who told you openly from Disney and Lucas Films that Finn is not force sensitive or will not be a Jedi. When they have it posted on the posters him holding a lightsaber, Rey in the poster of the Force Awakens clear sign the movie will be about her that why she in the center of it, it does not take away nothing about Finn. It just people assume when they are not the ones writing the script.

--- Double Post Merged, Jul 19, 2017, Original Post Date: Jul 19, 2017 ---

Even Daisy Ridley thinks Finn is Force Sensitive in this interview. She has a better connection to the movie Jimba.

 

Ok fair enough

--- Double Post Merged, Jul 19, 2017, Original Post Date: Jul 19, 2017 ---

Yes but maybe that was all a misdirect. I think the surprise for you might be that he isn't force sensitive or a force user. Dont forget JJ abrams is all for manipulating people's preconceived ideas. You just came up with one about the movie posters. Maybe its time to break with tradition. Also don't you think its conceivable Daisey Ridley was told to say that. Especially considering they are bound by secrecy. Im sure lies are probably fine if it serves to trick people like yourself.

 

Nothing said in those interviews should be taken seriously with few exceptions....especially from the actors.

Take what Bob Iger, KK, Hidalgo and the director say serious.
Take what the actors say as having fun.

If they were allowed to say it, it means it isn't covered in the NDA and it's probably bullspit.

 

Maybe RJ will see what I am see related to the posters and make things right.

Maryann Brandon talks about working with J.J. Abrams and the making of the latest Star Wars film, she said how we do not know Finn is not a Jedi and not Force Sensitive in the Q&A how Finn not the Jedi she said " we don't know if Finn not a Jedi ?" So she said their different levels of the Jedi and how some Jedi was not strong with the force and there different levels of the force.

 

I disagree whole heartedly wih your desire for Finn to be force sensitive. There simply isnt any evidence for it. Both Rey and Finn were unwillingly and unwittingly swept up by the will of the force. Finn didn't want to go back to Jakku and Rey wanted to stay on Jakku because she was waiting for "her family". The cause for their journey was BB8 or rather the piece of the map to find Luke. The Force it seems wanted Rey to find Luke as she has a connection to Luke's lightsaber. Finn on the hand doesn't have any connection to Luke or the lightsaber. His purpose it seems was to help the resistance which he did spectacularly. Can you give me any evidence that suggests he is force sensitive other than a misunderstood quote and the fact he temporarily wields a lightsaber and fails to defeat Kylo Ren with it? If RJ decides that Finn is force sensitive I'll be very disappointed as it flies in the face of logic and reason.

 

By your logic Han Solo should have been force sensitive (sarcasm) as he used a lightsaber in TESB to save Luke! Han's destiny was also shaped by the force when you think about his journey from providing safe passage for Luke and Obi Wan to fathering Vader's Grandchild. Finn as a force sensitive would literally come out of no where. It would be ridiculous!

 

Here it is:

-----------------------------------------------------------------

Many agree with this person in the video and also made many videos on the topic.

--------------------------------------------------

-------------------------------------------------------------

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------

--------------------------------------------------------------------------

​

--- Double Post Merged, Jul 19, 2017, Original Post Date: Jul 19, 2017 ---

Now give me proof that he is not force sensitive?

 

He doesn't use the force

 

Leia is force sensitive and she does not use the force? She ran around with a blaster in her hand and giving orders lol