SPOILER Andy Serkis Character Revealed?

Luke, leia, and Han are firmly established in the consciousness of the populace. Most everyone knows who they are, and for those that don't lucasbooks has announced a huge marketing push in the form of comics, childrens' books, and novels to burn those characters into the public's brains by December. Plagueis is getting none of that as far as we can tell. I'm not going to tell you they won't use him, but it seems besides the classic OT characters, Disney is forging completely new territory with these sequels and won't back peddle to old canon just to appeal to the small number of super fans who even know who he is.

 

Im sticking to what I think...

Kylo Ren (Maybe Adam Driver) has no association with the empire, and Gleeson is a double agent working for Luke.

Gwendoline Christie... is almost certainly a chrome trooper and/or inquisitor in this film, I will bet money that there will be a shift in her character (and the empire) away from teh dark side in future films.

 

To me, it makes perfect sense for JJ & Kasdan to tie Plagueis into the new Star Wars trilogy.
JJ did that with the Khan villian(Star Trek). Soon Eth Khan(check correct spelling) was 100s of years old. The character started out as a human male in India.
Khan was "abandoned" & plot his revenge for nearly 30 years in the Star Trek films/story.
Darth Plagueis could do the same.
In the popular Lethal Weapon action film series, the producers/screenwriters tied the South African drug syndicate to both the first & second film plots. This made the bad guys/villians more evil & sinister.
I recall in 2014, reading too that Andy Serkis stated in media interviews his TFA scenes had one part with few stunts but the other was heavy on CGI & MoCap stunts.
It's speculation but Serkis could be meaning how Plagueis was "undercover" & spying on the young leads then having a epic light saber duel with Luke Skywalker in the climax.

 

Ian MacDiarmid didn't need CGI Well.... he could have kept his mouth closed during his Sith outburst lol

My point is... if they use MOCAP..... it's probably something that is not humanoid.... Well... maybe not... I don't know.
They did that to poor Ahmed Best...

Can you imagine how Jar Jar would have looked with Ahmed and a mask on

 

If Serkis is playing a character who is aged to the point of decrepitude, emaciated, perhaps even skeletal, mo-cap is the only real way to achieve this. There were prior reports that his character was 'zombie-like' (if I remember correctly) and I took this to suggest a really thin, ribs-on-show type physique and leathery skin. Also, if Skerkis is playing Plagueis and he is a Muun I doubt that sort of wiry, elongated frame could be done using masks and costumes.

Of course, for all we know Serkis could be playing a Wookiee so who really knows....

 

This picture is zombie like Plagueis....



Plagueis knows how to use life of the force, hence Sidious told Anakin that his master (Plagueis) was able to handle the means and secrets of life through the force.
Also Shume(however its spelt) said that Anakin was born through the mystery of the force. Her Brief moments with Plagueis!

 

Indeed she did say ''there was no father'' very strange to become pregnant that way maybe it happened when Palgueis went on one of these with Sidious.

 

You know they could make him human if they wanted too. We can't forget that lucasfilm now has complete creative freedom.

 

I think it depends how much of Lucas' ideas were used. Guarantee Pelagius was in his treatments.

 

I think he will save this great sith lord for something special.

 

I agree. A Rubber head piece that fits sort of "hood like" over Serkis' head along with a nose glued on and obviously heavy makeup could be awesome. NOTHING beats having the physical material and a real human face. CG still isn't at the point where we see a character's face and say "OMG that's real!" but it's actually CG. It is for some effects but not a character.They could always do CG things to his eyes too.

 

agreed!

 

I saw Yuuzhan Vhong and was like, yep, that shark just got jumped.

 

The thing that currently interests me the most is the question of who he's talking to with his lines from the first teaser, and what that implies. Specifically I'm interested in his first two lines (I actually happen to think we're being trolled with that last line because it sounds like a completely different person than the first two...in fact I'm nearly certain that's Sydow... @Kyle, if you're reading this, I'm with you on this one ).

Anyway... Clearly Serkis is a heavyweight in the force. He's sensed something, and has enough experience with the force to recognize that this is something new and important that's happening. Given that it sounds like Serkis is playing "Uber", this isn't much of a revelation. BUT, what *is* interesting is that his lines imply that whoever he is talking to also has a strong knowledge and command of the force. He's not talking to some force sensitive n00b (e.g. Rey, Finn), he's talking to someone who knows their stuff and would be able to recognize the same thing he did. I almost get the sense from the delivery that he himself is not entirely sure exactly what this "awakening" is, and is genuinely interested to know if the person on the other end of the line is aware of it.

So that narrows the pool considerably. Given what we "know" about the film thus far, there are really only two characters that potentially fit that description. Obviously Luke does, and clearly from the new trailer Kylo Ren has some force skills, so it could be him as well. The idea of it possibly being Luke is really intriguing to me...

Also, another related thing occurred to me. Some people have talked about "Uber" as being the thing that "awakens"... But it doesn't really make sense given the way he speaks about it. Sounds very much like he's talking about something that is happening externally to him.

Anyhoo, just thinking out loud...

 

Lucky escape Sidous.

 

The way I see it we have two options here.....

A. Uber is an entirely new character.

If they go this route then we will need to understand how Uber is as powerful as he is and where he has been all this time. He is said to have a zombie look about him. I'm not sure if that's an accurate rumor or if that was just talk. I believe Andy Serkis himself said there is Mo Cap work involved so I don't see how anyone on set would know he is zombie looking. He would prob just have the markers all over his face used for Mo cap.

B. Uber is an existing evil character from the past.

We have all heard it before, especially here at the Cantina. Uber is an awakened Sith lord, Uber is an old Sith lord that was in hiding etc. The most common name that comes up is Darth Plagueis. Plagueis was pronounced dead by his apprentice about 54 years before the events of TFA. Some people swear up and down that Uber will in fact be Plagueis . There are other options though. By no means am I saying I think Uber is Darth Maul but Maul is canonically alive. He would be around 92 years old with 72 years of darkside using experience. Palpatine was 88 during ROTJ. The fact that people get upset at the possibility of Uber being Maul and think he is Plagueis instead is down right baffling to me. Maybe he is Plagueis. Maybe he is Maul. Who knows.

The main thing I take away from the possibility of him being a past character is we could have a really cool reveal. Instead of there being some Skywalker family related twist (which there still might be anyway) we would get a shocking reveal of who the orchestrator behind The First Order is. I think that would be really cool because we have always pretty much known what we are dealing with in terms of villains in SW films.

 

Lol I failed!

 

He might just be that little orange Gollum-looking guy that hands Leia the lightsaber...

 

That's "Rose" portrayed by Lupita Nyong'o.