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SPOILER Andy Serkis Character Revealed?

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by jrosche, Dec 5, 2014.

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    Toggle your account name (top right corner) and chose "Ratings Received". You should be able to find the culprit there.
    DarthDwight told me there are some trolls out who do nothing but dislike posts (or something to that effect). For what it is worth, an alien Sith would be fine by me. We already had a really good one in Darth Maul.
     
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    I'm doing the complete opposite I'm actually going around rating everything up :p and thanks I'll see if I can find this hut'uun.

    EDIT: imo everybody who shares their opinion deserves to be told their post is great, nobody has a dumb opinion.

    EDIT#2: sorry for going off topic, never fails with me :p
     
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    I'll save you the trouble. It was me. I thought your comment about it being to much like Palpatine was silly. Especially if it turns out to be Plagueis. If that's the case than the similarity is intentional.
     
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    Probably just a codename.
     
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    Here, have a pizza! ;)
     
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    that's an interesting idea.

    one of the best forms of mis-direction is to hide things in plain site... the first thing we see in the trailer is Boyega jumping up out of nowhere. probably not the actual force waking him up moment.. but it could be symbolic.

    What was the name of that character in rebels who opted to stay in the empire to find his sister? i think he was only in one episode. it would be a stretch for him to be boyega of course.. but i like a good stretch once in a while.
    *edit: just found pages of discussion on this site with ppl speculating boyega being Zare Leonis.. and i call myself a regular lol. apologies for being a nub.
     
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    it wasn't me, but take my advice: haters gonna hate. screw 'em.

    Sith lord coming back from the dead sounds weird and i'm not sure i like it... from what i was reading Serkis will be playing an alien that hasn't been revealed before. not sure if the link below is accurate, but be warned: it's pretty spoilerish!

    http://www.reddit.com/r/StarWars/comments/2o4hhp/rumor_potential_4chan_episode_vii_leak_part_2/
     
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    yeah, i started reading the massive thread on it after i posted this. oh well! thanks for the heads up all the same!

    if Serkis is going to be a zombie lord i wonder if they'll use make-up and practical effects or mo-cap...
     
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    Agreed. Maybe Gleeson is the good character that they are trying to turn. Or an Empire officer that's on the fence. But this rumor is in direct conflict with Spoilerman's from 4chan.

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    Was there a rumor Andy Serkis was playing 2 characters? if so he could be playing a 'version' of Nom Anor and later in the film(s) Vergere. Could also explain why the Tie's appear to be shooting past the falcon, maybe aiming at a new alien race.
     
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    Tie fighters always miss.
     
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    I recall the same about Ledger as the Joker.

    A good actor can be anyone.

    Most likely a codename. Can never imagine the next ultimate villian in the SW franchise be called Uber.
     
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    My money is that we've seen a lot of concept for the character that Serkis is playing because when you're building a new IP, one of the first things you do is really hone in your central characters, especially if there is a new big bad villain - it takes the most work and has the most back and forth.

    Keeping in mind that both Darth Vader and Darth Maul's voice were overdubbed (vs Prowse/Park actor voices)

    I think this new "zombie" character that Serkis is "voicing" (that we heard in the trailer) is this character:

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    A hypothesis is that these are all concepts of the same character made at different times.

    They are all Andy Serkis' voiced character - and the main villain that is out to take advantage of the Force Awakening.

    He is holding Vader's skull not in reverence, but as a historian learning from the mistakes of the past. I don't think of him as a collector but more of a shadow - going to Vader's burial site and stealing his helmet as a reminder that 'the most powerful jedi ever' is still reduced to a burnt helmet.

    If he is the evil - then he must believe the Sith to be the true power in the universe and Darth Vader is the object lesson of how not to train a Sith because Vader ultimately failed the Sith.

    Serkis won't make that same mistake.
     
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    I've always wanted to see Nietzsche's ubersith on screen.
     
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    It's a logical argument but here is a counterpoint

    Who was the main villain of Episode I? Darth Sidious. Who was marketed the most? Darth Maul

    I think that sort of relationship is what we have with Serkis and Driver. Serkis is the main villain but Driver will be the marketed one
     
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    Here's what we have on Serkis so far:

    Serkis said his role is a cameo:

    http://thecantina.starwars7news.com/index.php?threads/pip-andersens-role-in-ep-7.169/#post-5968
    http://www.timeoutdubai.com/films/features/54439-andy-serkis-interview

    Serkis said, "I could tell you [who I'm playing], but afterwards I'd have to take you down with a light sabre. Oh, I hope I haven't given away too much by saying that. Just this: I prefer light sabres to blasters."

    http://www.3news.co.nz/entertainment/andy-serkis-happy-to-stay-out-of-the-limelight-2014081906

    Serkis said he is the voice of the teaser trailer:

    http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=42880
    http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-30287380

    Serkis implied his dialogue is not exclusive to the trailer:

    http://www.nydailynews.com/entertai...star-wars-trailer-voiceover-article-1.2040652

    Serkis is "playing a pivotal role in the film, although he will not have a lot of screen time."

    http://www.hitfix.com/motion-captur...-mysterious-narrator-of-the-star-wars-trailer

    From fan sites:

    Jedi News - RUMOUR: The Force Awakens: Andy Serkis Portraying Multiple Roles? (Serkis has multiple roles, one of which entwines with Ridley's character)
    Star Wars Underworld - EXCLUSIVE: Andy Serkis' 'The Force Awakens' Character Revealed! (Serkis is "Uber", a zombie-like villain)
     
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    I have several theories about Serkis and his role. These are all speculation and supposition based on my own theories and the rumors and such that been floating.

    1- Darth Plageus- The undead Sith version of a Force Ghost (which does not need to be human). He is said to have been killed by his apprentice. Has the ability to cause the mitoclorians to create life. But most importantly able to "cheat death." I love this theory it answers a question and creates more questions and ties it to all the movies potentially. Imagine the possibility of an enemy who can animate dead things or possess Solo children like poor misunderstood Goth Solo (Driver) who collects items that connect him to his lost and unknown grandfather.

    2- Darth wait for it MAUL- Huh? What? Hows that? Clone Wars is cannon Maul is motivated by power. We last saw him as a tortured second rate servant of the Palpatine. He is alien so life span is not an issue. Given that he is robotic from the waist down means he can have all sorts of locomotion options. Not keeping him a half spider was a huge mistake. My guess is if he shows up again in Rebels he will be coming back.

    3- Something Else- There are all sorts of crazy options. But the Force Witches that are connected to Maul and Ventriss are Force Users and Dark Side that operate out side of the "Always 2 there are" paradigm.
     
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