SPOILER Andy Serkis Character Revealed?

It could be Ezra, but I doubt it. Because to casual, movie-going SW fans he would mean nothing. The back-story of his fall would have to be reprised in some way for their benefit, unless Disney believe that his inclusion would lead to Rebels DVD sales as people try to catch up? The benefit of Plagueis is that he already exists--if only as a conversation piece--in the movies. Developing his character would more likely lead people to think, "Oh, that guy, how clever of them to set that up three movies ago," than, "Who?" It would strengthen the Saga....to a point, too. I still believe Plagueis will figure, if only as a focus for back-story. But I think the villain is more likely to be a totally new entity than someone drawn from the EU. Just my opinion, of course....

 

With the news that Rebels will get at least another season if not the planned 4 years, I doubt any main character would emerge in any major role for episode VII as it kills the Finale of Rebels. Kind of like The Clone Wars, every time Obi-Wan or Anakin was "in danger" everyone knew nothing could happen to them so it sucked the suspense out of the show.

An like you said, I doubt we will see any significant Rebels Characters (like Ezra) in Episode VII. I have mentioned this in other threads, but i think any Rebels tie-in stuff would be say, the supposed R2 unit in Rebels and the same supposed unit seen with Boyega. Very superficial.

In terms of Serkis playing Plagueis, I still have my doubts.

 

Jeezuz, I really hope that plagueis isn't in this. From everything I've heard and seen of him, he's gotta be one of the lamest sith. He's a munn for gods sake, they are hardly the most inspiring of aliens in the SW universe. I think most of everything else as regards rumors are ok, but plagueis might put me off starwars for good. Utter crap. If he was considered to be the most powerful sith, why make him so crappy?
Also has anyone else noticed that the novel front cover art seems to have Julian Clary as palpatine?

 

I think Plagueis is no Canon Anymore We know that only Clone Wars, Rebels, the new recent books and the 6 Movies are canon at all.... Actually: Do you all realise that his back story was created AFTER the Episode III, by James Luceno with George Lucas feedback, based only on a speculation that Palpatine was telling the story of his old master and NOT a histoy-legend from a random old and powerful sith, as he said to Anakin. It was a Fan theory that many people have (including myself !!!) after go out the theater.

Even the Theory about Anakin been a experiment of Plagueis was an Theory based only on a Line about "create life". It makes the whole mistery about Skywalker family sounds like "midclorians stuff", with an "Star Trek feeling", does not Even Look Like an Star Wars story. Skywalker family is just an experiment? holy blast what a crap story for a fantasy movie! Star wars is not only Sci-Fi, it's Sci-Fi AND fantasy.

Ok, I Knew many stuff from the EU starts with a Fan Idea. But think: ALL CANON CLAIM we have it's A SINGLE "Kessel-Run-Like-Story-for-the-sith" on the Script AND NOTHING more. A single point used by palpatine to bring Anakin to the Dark Side.

And Somehow This is Enough to make the Story of the whole new Trilogy?

Let i made my point: I Think the MAIN VILLAN will be an Ancient Sith of 1000 years (or even more), OR the TRUE Palpatine Master, that for SOME REASON (that will be revealed in VIII or IX) doesn't get involved on Clone Wars and everything else. And it's the real reason why sith survived all these years without jedi know. A much intersting plot will be make everyone get curious to know what are his real intentions, and make a 3 Line Story, the sith, the empire and the good guys, because simply raise from the dead an sith that will be the new emperor?

My point is: "Tell me about how this line about raise an old wizard from the dead was never used in the past in so many fantasy histories around the world" It's so predictable... They want to surprise us! think about it!!! I think a more COMPLEX Plot will be a thing that REALLY surprises us all that a mirror of Harry potter Story. Imagine that a Sith-wannabe-The-Joker is much better than an Voldemort-wannabe

 

It won't be Plagueis. He is by no means 'ancient.' I feel ancient would have to be more than 200yrs old, which is about how old he would be. I feel that JJ is leaning toward a new character, somewhere along the lines of The Father in the Clone wars. Or possibly someone that is mentioned somewhere in canon but not necessarily seen. This movie is supposed to highlight the fact that there is much more to the Force than we previously thought, and if TCW and Star wars rebels are canon than I expect the movie to build on the mystery of the Living and Cosmic force which was featured heavily in the 6th season of the clone wars.

 

What does "ancient" have to do with anything?

"The Ancient Fear" title has been debunked people!

 

Yeah, i dont get where this Ancient stuff is coming from either. Andy Serkis character, all we KNOW...is that he knows the force exists and has felt the awakening. That alone is enough to speculate plenty on this thread.

Serkis can feel the living Force...so what does he HAVE to be in accordance with canon? A Sith or Jedi. People have heard rumors of the force, but few alive know much of it.

In the most recent lifespan (of most general aged humans etc.) the only known force users were ObiWan, Luke, Vader, and Palps. 3 of them died. As far as canon goes...that leaves Luke. The small group of friends around him knew of his force capabilities as far as what was seen. Everyone else simply saw his skill in Xwings, a few untrustworthy baddies saw his force/lightsaber skill, and there are probably tons of rumors swirling around Rebel bases. "Oh Oh, i once saw Luke lift up an entire cargo ship with the force!" "Whatever Jimmy"...

Serkis' character FEELS the awakening...and he asks someone else if they felt it as well. This leads me to believe he has knowledge of the force that is beyond heresay, and that whomever he is speaking to also has knowledge. What's also important (pending these lines weren't cut in differently than delivered) is that he first mentions the dark side...and the tone with which he says "the light". He also recognizes them both individually, thus lending more credence to his knowledge of the Force.

Serkis is a Force user of some type. I feel like thats a fact at this point.

 

Totally agreed. thats one of the reasons why i think the main villan be someone VERY WISE, and by the voice, it's probably someone with Dark Side Lore, that for some reason was doing another stuff and not trying to take control of the Galaxy like Palpatine.

 

Welcome to the forum and you're doing great with your English! I agree; I think this big bad has no interest at all in politics or control of the galaxy like Palpatine. He's more likely motivated by furthering the cause of the dark side and setting into motion events that will help the dark side spread throughout the galaxy.

 

Where is all the ancient hate coming from?

The plot could be just about anything.

Even without the "Ancient Fear" baggage (you know cause Return of the Jedi was totally and completely different than Revenge of the Jedi) you still have numerous ancient villians showing up in the post ROTJ era. Look at the EU Exar Kun a sith spirit haunting the temple posesses student and causes trouble for the jedi. Not that they are adapting that story completely but the idea of an old corruption coming back is not out of place.

 

Ta daaah! There will be no spin-off characters in major roles in a movie. It's a non-written rule of filmmaking.
So no Ahsoka or Ezra or Inquisitor nor Darth Maul in Episode 7. The movies still maintain the prominent A+ canon in out of universe mechanism.

Model example: My dad, saw Darth Maul cut in half, falling down a shaft.
After years (and with Clone Wars TV show, which doesn't interests him as a ''cartoon show for kids''),
we go to see the movie, and there is Darth Maul. ''But he is dead!'' ''Well, in Clone Wars....'' ''I am not watching this anymore, this is bantha poodoo.''

 

Aren't you glad that anything is still possible? They've done a pretty good job of keeping a lid on the story despite the information age we're living in.

 

That's exctaly what i mean.

Maybe the whole Trilogy will be abut the Force? just a shot in the dark: VII - The Force Awakens / VIII - Legacy of the Shadows / IX - The Fate of the Light. Wow, would be great !

 

Naming conventions for the other two trilogies have gone like this

1st- mysterious and vague (The Phantom Menace, A New Hope)

2nd- arubt and immediate title with a martial theme (Attack of the Clones, Empire Strikes Back)

3rd- something comes back (Revenge of the Sith, Return of the Jedi)

So VIII would be something like Star Wars Episode VIII: Assault of the Sith, and IX would be something like Star Wars Episode IX: Rise of the Force

 

I like keeping Force in all 3 titles of the ST...

STAY ON TOPIC PEEPS!!

Topic: Andy Serkis' character

 

If Serkis is anyone from the previous movies it is Plagueis, otherwise he is someone new, this I stand by

 

Or Serkis is Boba Fett...he would have knowledge of the force from seeing it used all around him...

 

You know you've gone off the deep end when you can't tell if people are serious anymore haha

 

Ive gone off the deep end because i typed that to be funny and about two minutes later i went "Wait... maybe" lol

 

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