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Can TROS measure up to Endgame?

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker' started by Adam812, May 2, 2019.

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    We're still in the not actually knowing what happened in the movie phase of a movie that is 4 years old? Good grief.
     
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    It definitely was set up in TFA. I think many did not have a problem with it then because they were expecting to see all powerful, swashbuckling Luke in TLJ. When that didn’t happen they have projected their displeasure onto RJ. Especially since Luke dies at the end. However, RJ just went with what was set up in TFA.
     
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    I have to agree. Having Luke suddenly spring back to life would have been jarring, considering he'd been gone for years. At least we saw a glimpse of classic Luke with the R2 and Yoda scenes..

    We'll be getting lots of post-ROTJ Luke content from video games etc anyway.. just a matter of time.
     
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    Its like comparing apples and oranges....apple fans will prefer apples over oranges.
    Avengers EG had 21 movies to build from (which most of the preceding movies being better than the one before) so the Marvel folks needed their A game
    for the finale.

    The TROS, unfortunately, has TLJ which was a Maclunkey disaster and waste IMO
     
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    The irony.
     
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    The Russo's brothers, screenwriters, Feige and other 'big heads' planed iw/eg since before shooting civil war, and it shows, lucasfilm treated the new trilogy like an average francise.
    I just hope JJ makes a good story , and Lucasfilm learn the lesson.
     
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    I’m not a comic book fan so I don’t really understand the pop culture phenomenon of the newest Avengers movie.

    Deep down I’m glad the Marvel movies have overtaken SW just so we don’t have to focus on the box office horse race in December.

    Being #1 these days isn’t the same as being #1 when SW came out in 1977. Back in the day, if you were the #1 movie, #1 TV show, #1 song, you were clearly the best in terms of quality. Now most of the stuff in pop culture that is #1 are mere fads that don’t age well. I’ll take a great TROS as the #2 box office movie in 2019 as that’s just fine with me.
     
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    I’m pretty sure it’s not a good thing. :)
     
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    That's the way I see it and Imo there are better Marvel movies.
     
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    I have not seen Endgame yet but this is what I thought about Infinity War
     
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    I have zero interest in 'Endgame' or any Marvel movie for that matter. But I doubt Ep. 9 will pull the same numbers as 'Endgame', certainly not globally. Superhero movies fare better in China than Star Wars, and Marvel movies seem to do exceptionally well in Asia. How ever good Ep. 9 may be, I don't know if it can match Ep. 7 numbers, and Ep. 7 wasn't that great of a movie in and of itself. At this point, I really don't care anymore. Records are made to be broken. All I really want to see is a really exceptional Star Wars movie again.
     
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    Then why do actors keep saying they knew their character's fate during TFA?
     
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    The Skywalker saga spans more than 40 years (in THIS galaxy, lol) and it's going to come to an end this year with Ep. 9. So I think there is a lot of anticipation from a lot of people to see how it ends. And JJ could really make this movie a great finale. So, quite possibly, it could do better than Avengers- although, perhaps in the USA only. We'll see.
     
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    Read my post again , i'm talking about creating the arcstory ahead for the entire saga, the fact that actors get the real script or not is irelevant.
     
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    If it can please the "haters" of TLJ. Thus, have no bad word of mouth, I think it'll do Infinity War numbers. However, Infinity War numbers is nothing to sneeze at. When I say "haters" I mean those that said TLJ ruined their childhoods. Not to those that simply disliked it.
     
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    Read my post again.
    If they didn't have a set planned "arcstory" Daisy, Adam and co. wouldn't have known how their story ends which they have since day 1 it seems. Has nothing to do with "real script"
     
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    Read your post again , you said TFA... that's not the all story, as we all are aware now after tlj , then read my post again : of course there was a script for tfa and ofc the actors knew about it, more or less and sooner or later, i meant they did a crappy job overal, not putting the effort and time and heart they should've put in the best franchise ever.
     
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    Haha

    British for: not very good. (my opinion of course!)

    Keep in mind that in the UK, pants are not trousers. They are underwear. ;)
     
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    It's really not comparable. Marvel screenwriters and storywriters have a bunch of shallow cardboard characters on their disposal. They make an origin movie for each and every one of them with the same story frame, and then they merge it in 2 big finale movies. Really, a no-branier 10-15 years plan.

    On the other hand, in sequel trilogy you had nothing. You only had ideas from George Lucas but you still had to make up deep and meaningful characters, and that's something that Marvel doesn't have.

    I have my complaints for sequel trilogy, but overall they are small because they gave me a few new charaters that I really care about.
    Is the overall story arc good or not? We will know in december. :rolleyes:
     
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