Darth Plagueis In The Sequel Trilogy.

You guys can watch the original Collider video here ( since it'll be deleted pretty soon I suppose )


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This whole thing reeks of weirdness. On both sides.

 

Thank you, my master.

 

Yeah, its just not adding upto me.

Andy Serkis said he didn't know what the character looked like at the beginning and that it was always changing, a Muun is a Muun, put scars, cybernetics on it, its still a Muun. I am wondering whether alot of people have been shown a Muun, lower key people and Andy's comments were still true right up until the end, has Snokes looked only been finalized very very recently?

This is no way says it can't be Plagueis, I would love it to be Plagueis but I can't see it happening without Diminishing Palpatine and Vaders roles/legacy and theres a part of me that wants something more, not just an old Sith lord but a friggin beast of a Darkside user.

 

Man, I don't think we read the same story...Plagueis was much different in my opinion than Palpy. He's like s mad scientist with the Force. Palpating just wanted to rule. Plagueis wanted to know and understand more and more about the Force and its secrets.

 

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For those who quote Kasdan saying "we don't deal with the prequels to tell this story", let me say something: Plagueis is not part of the prequels, in the same way clones are not part of the original trilogy just because obi wan mentions them.

Plagueis is a new character.

 

Fixed.

And here, have another pic of our fearless leader and his Sith progeny.

 

I only take my opinion of Plagueis from Canon, Wasn't it Plagueis and Sidious who devised the plan to overthrow the Jedi and rule? Also both Plagueis and Sidious were messing with Midi-Chlorins etc.

 

I'd say either clickbait or they're like me and say, "f(r)ck Disney .

 

Plagueis being the main villain doesn't diminish anything. Sidious ended up as Emperor and ruled the galaxy, all as planned, until he was killed by Vader.

 

@King3000
IIRC: Plagueis went into the lab and didn't come out for about a decade, while Palpatine was playing politics. The messing with midis was done solely by Plagueis, witnessed by his droid and his apprentice when he revived the Bith pretender over and over again until his organs finally gave out. It wasn't until later in said visit that they tapped into the stream of the living force, together...

So it was 2 Sith Lords working in harmony that threw the force out of balance and when Plagueis attempted to impose his will upon all life... that is when Anakin came into being.

 

That a fair point, though I would say that if they are using Plagueis, I would expect a lot of his qualities to remain similar to Luceno's writings.

 

Agreed.

If Plagues was secretly the mastermind the whole time in the PT/OT, and pulling strings...that would be crap. Just a lame retcon.

But, if he was nearly killed/truly killed, had to go away, and was licking his wounds/regenerating during that time (and nobody was aware of it), that's different.

Palps treachery against him (as he himself described for us in the opera scene) leads to the events of the PT. And then Vaders choices lead to what happens in the OT.

It doesn't diminish Vader or Palps in the PT/OT.

Just makes him the guy who comes back from history/the grave to be the villain in the ST. Nobody knew he survived. But he was out of the picture for the other films, while still having been mentioned in them.

Perfect setup, really.

 

If I were Plagueis though, I'd want to resurrect Palpatine so I could kill him for killing me. Hopefully he can do it in the Family Guy version.

 

See I agree massively on the first one it would be a lame retcon. but still won't Palps be known as the guy who couldn't get the job done? It would make him seem like he didn't know what he was doing. That sly smile as he says "he could save others from death but not himself" would forever be changed. Also the point of PLagueis waiting in the shadows, make him seem like a bit of a pussy? Only coming out when Palps and Vader are dead?

If there is another reason he would be alive I would like someone to figure a theory, Plagueis does make sense of sorts as the big bad, but bringing him back either makes Palpatine weak or PLagueis himself weak. He couldn't even defeat his apprentice, had to wait for a "returned Jedi" to do it.

 

But he probably needed that time to regain his power. And hey, the whole Sith order was in hiding for nigh on 1,000 years, so 60 doesn't seem that much in comparison.

 

Consider - he was stuck in limbo by the defeat, until the Chosen One and his son defeated Palpatine. When he was killed, his hold on DP in the afterlife was released.

The rebels victory created the First Order. The Jedi returning created the Force Awakening.

(just spitballing here, but there's ways to do it)

 

Yeah but still, he was beaten by his apprentice, the big bad guy in the last 6 films and then has to hide from him we need something BIGGER.

Luke beat Vader(with limited training), Vader Beat Palpatine (with one hand), Palaptine Beat Plagueis (In his sleep). Now how weak does he look compared to a fully trained uber Luke?

Hell if Plagueis is the big bad, what sort of training has Kylo received? How to make a Midi-Clorin milkshake? Hasn't even given him a big boy saber yet :/

 

I think you'll get that with Kylo. He's a new dark side user, with a rough and rugged way of fighting.
And I can't fault you for not wanting DP to be in it, but I think it would be harder to explain if he was someone new. This would be a dark lord, waiting around for a Sith lord who wanted to rule forever, leading a cult dedicated to the last Sith, and possibly mentoring a Skywalker.
If anyone who just practices in the dark arts can lead an Order, then that would weaken this galactic war and the dark vs light conflict of the saga.


I must admit, however, that the retcon of the Chosen One prophecy would be a tough one to get across. But hey, if Anakin's purpose was to bring balance to the force, it should knock out major dark side opposition in the galaxy, right? At least for more than 30 years. The Sith wanted to kill the Jedi and rule the galaxy, and this new faction, that is led by a dark side user, has potential to destroy star systems. Either someone read it wrong or the prophecy has some missing pieces left to be put together.