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Darth Plagueis In The Sequel Trilogy.

Discussion in 'General Sequel Trilogy Discussion' started by BB-Rey, Sep 15, 2014.

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Would you like it if Darth Plagueis was the villain of the Sequel Trilogy?

  1. Yeah! He is a very interesting character!

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  2. No thanks, Plagueis is dead.

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  3. Nope! He never actually existed.

    29 vote(s)
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  4. Yes, but he is in the movie as a corpse.

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  5. He will be mentioned in another "throwaway line" only.

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  6. He is Snoke in disguise.

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  7. Yes, his death was a ruse.

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  8. I don't care either way, brah.

    74 vote(s)
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  9. Of course, who else would you choose?

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    Which will be a real neat trick, seeing that he had been dead for a long long time at the point of her birth...

    As noted, all of these trade rags were quoting a single ambiguous source, which is as-of-yet-unconfirmed... and while there are rumors that he will be evil, there are an equal number of rumors that he will not, and the only photograph seems to indicate he is at least dressed as an x-wing pilot...

    @Batman question was fair... there has been no official confirmation of these rumors, and all the rags stem from ambiguity...

    Palpatine certainly makes claims to it, but as I have said elsewhere, Sith lie...

    I believe he said, "EU and novelizations aside"... I don't think quotes from third-party sites qualify... And I have no idea if the new novel is canon today or not... what day is it?

    Good point... when you are standing over someone and you watch the life seep out of them, you are never sure... especially in novelization... for that matter, we only assume that Palpatine is dead because we saw Vader throw him into an immensely deep reactor shaft (and the satisfying poof that followed)

    Lucas intended for the Emperor to be the villain in Episode VII... and VIII with an eventual confrontation with Luke and his sister (who was not Leia) in IX

    Things change...

    As for Lucas' reaction, he will claim Greedo shot first, and that is the way it always was...

    I think Force Collection is also... Assault Team has been pulled, along with TinyDeathStar (not that I think turning the Death Star into a luxury mall was ever "canon", but it was fun)

    Wait... so you are saying that non-official sites aren't the official source of what is official or not?

    I gotta take a second to wrap my head around that...

    Or until the special edition comes out, which gets re-edited to the way it was originally meant to be

    It's absolutely a Sith lord... unless it's something else... in which case it isn't, and never was...
     
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    Confusing isn't it?
     
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    I just realized that the phrase "Ancient Fear" is the exact polar opposite of "New Hope"
     
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    It is all confusing. Only time will tell whether the novel has any influence on what happens in the sequels.

    Maybe R2 recorded everything and can tell us. :)

    The reason I think the Plagueis novel is canon is not necessary because, George worked hands on with it. But, that the advanced reader's copy states the book as canon. Granted all of this was before Disney and it might not be anymore. We don't know exactly yet because, has it been sorted out what is and what is not canon? Like has Lucasfilm/Disney made an official statement regarding the books?
     
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    I get what you guys are saying about the Darth Plagueis novel possibly being in some sort of canon limbo, since it could end up part of the story for Episode VII.

    However, officially, the only things canon right now are the movies, Clone Wars animated series, Rebels, and the novels A New Dawn, Tarkin, Heir to the Jedi, and Lords of the Sith.
     
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    And Darth Maul-Son of Dathomir comic, and a hand full of iOS/Android games.
     
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    Are the Android games really canon? I thought they where just for fun. Any source to confirm that?
     
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    And none of them have any evidence that Plagueis lived during or after the clone wars.
     
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    I can't remember, I think it was an article on this website months back.
     
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    Hope if Plagueis is the villain the kind of recon him a little bit. A pale white guy resurrected from the dead and obsessed with living forever sounds remarkably like the main villain of another franchise
     
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    Shredder?
    james-saito-as-the-shredder-oroko-saki-in.jpg
    ....just kidding.
     
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    Mostly what I assumed as a reason for Plagueis being alive is speculation from a quote from George.

    Lucas was asked what the third Star Wars trilogy was about and he said that "It deals with the character that survives Star Wars III and his adventures." This quote has led to speculation that a character from the prequel trilogy would be frozen at the end of Episode III, hibernate through the Galactic Civil War & be revived for Episode VII.

    Maybe I have been wrong all this time and it's Jar Jar ....
     
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    I find the whole Plagueis discussion fascinating, to the point where I believed that his master Tenebrous would have been the source of evil for Episode VII. But I find no evidence for either of them or Sidious, for that matter to continue in the saga. The movie will be more about Vader's legacy and how it evolves through the galaxy.
     
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    That's yet another reason I think Plagueis is the villain. He's said to be one to create Anakin. What better way to bind the story together then reveal how Vader came to be? And for our young heros to be conflicted whether they should kill their great grandfather who created such a powerful figure and potentially their grandfather. He's a master of manipulation, so I could see them being conflicted. Especially the Solo and Skywalker children whose grandchildren he would be their grandpa in a sense.

    It makes things come full circle and explains the origins of Vader and how the force works more.
     
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    Survives episode 3? It must be a character we see on screen. Perhaps Grievous or Mace Windu?
     
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    Or Mas Amedda... just sayin...
     
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    Maybe neither. Here's the full quote.


    One plot point of the sequel trilogy that has been incorrectly reported for years derives from a 1980 interview with George Lucas in Bantha Tracks. Lucas was asked what the third Star Wars trilogy was about and he said that "It deals with the character that survives Star Wars III and his adventures." This quote has led to speculation that a character from the prequel trilogy would be frozen at the end of Episode III, hibernate through the Galactic Civil War & be revived for Episode VII.

    So it could be the prequels in general because, of how far back the quote is. Maybe Mace but, he'd be kinda "ancient" around the time of Episode VII. That's it, he must be the Ancient Fear.
     
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    Oh well hell... 1980, that was pre-ESB, at that time, ESB was still "Star Wars II" so it is potential that "Star Wars III" in this context referred to what became RoTJ
     
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    If that's the case we have these possible characters:
    1. Boba Fett aka Darth Fett!! LOL!!!
    2. Sidious, (BIG Maybe)
    But If Star Wars III refers to ROTS than It could be these:
    1.Darth Maul
    2.Ventress(did she ever die in TCW?)
    3. Maul's brother
    4. Mace Windu?
    5. Asoka Tano
    My Best guesses
     
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    Ventress has a novel coming out summer 2015 set after the Clone Wars.
     
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