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Did TLJ kill the tradition of fan theories?

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by BobRoss, Mar 5, 2018.

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    Think that may be a stretch there.
     
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    I know you and some others don't want to hear it, but it is just true this time. :(
     
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    Somebody wanna guess what overused TLJ gif would be appropriate here?
     
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    Once again, you can't put everyone under a umbrella. That's the same mistake that JJ did with his "haters feel threatened by women" comment. I still have interest in 9 and care very much about what happens. You must care some what, because you're still here. On a forum that's dedicated to Star Wars...
     
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    ok, you also want me gone, fine. One more. Who cares anymore. One day we are all gone.
     
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    You're the one that said "you were done."
     
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    There's plenty to speculate in regards to Episode IX.
    JJ's quote in context didn't put everyone under an umbrella. That was the muckrakers.
     
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    --- Double Post Merged, Mar 6, 2018, Original Post Date: Mar 6, 2018 ---
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    Star Wars will never truly die, the franchise is too unique. But comparing the amount of sepculation after TFA to the speculation after TLJ is kinda sad. At least there's lots of theories to look forward to in the rebels section. Filoni and the SOLO movie might manage to make me more optimistic about the future on SW. And there will be a lot of speculation once Rian's trilogy comes out. Since he is the one mapping out the story we can expect more consistency than in the ST :)
     
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    K not to be harsh here and as being a member of a board, I'm inclined to acknowledge facts and respect opinion; enjoy other POV; inclusive right?

    This is the type of an anomaly of a movie that strikes chords transcending FAR beyond the Black Panther fan base and I speak as one of those many because it struck the same chords within me, a descendant of chattel slaves .This film has Stricken chords in MILLIONS of people with heritage indigenous to Africa and not JUST people with heritage indigenous to Africa. It hits on points of slavery and oppression that NO ONE in their right mind having access to a world of information can disagree with. I even sensed that from everyone's reaction in the theater, and I live in the NC outer banks! I think the record shattering box office numbers will validate my point. That line about bury me in the ocean so I can be with my ancestors who we're thrown overboard from slave ships? And by the millions I might add, yea that struck a major chord within myself like it did multiple others. Generic, "from a certain point of view", the view of the minority in this case.

    TLJ may have not lived up to many fans expectations like myself, but I'm not ALL over the boards endlessly complaining about it either. It happened. It cant be taken back. Forward is the only viable solution here. I won't dismiss hard core Black Panther fans opinions. But my statement about BP is not based on opinion, it's based on fact.
     
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    There is no tradition of fan theories. OT people just watched and enjoyed them. PT we already knew what was going to happen. When TFA came out and everyone was obsessed with Reys parents and Snoke, like it was important. So people spent a good part of 2 years arguing and coming up with their own stories instead of just waiting to find out. I don't want these movies to be predictable, that is why I didn't like the PT.
     
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    Every Star Wars fan LOVE to make their own theories.For me is: no-way-jose.gif
     
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    I..I... care
     
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    The Last Jedi was the biggest blockbuster of 2017 by a significant margin. The film was a critical success and an overwhelming number of a people enjoyed the film. However there's a tiny minority of people who are motivated for whatever reason to make as many people miserable as possible (this isn't directed to @Lord Phanatic).

    If you don't like the film feel free to debate it, but it's March now. The movie is coming out on Blu-ray in a few days. If you hate the movie that much leave us alone. Black Panther is a fine film, why compare it to The Last Jedi? Many of us want to speculate and discuss the film we love. If that doesn't include you, why do you care to make us miserable?

    I didn't like parts of Rogue One and ultimately the film doesn't hold up well over time. Does that mean I have to relentless complain it? There are some really good people in this forum who didn't like The Last Jedi and who have discussed it rationally, but man.... there are some miserable folks who want to make others miserable. Y'all should take a break for awhile.
     
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    Then why quote my post?
     
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    I think the theories are there in the background, it's just there are more barriers to discussion partly due to the point of the story we are at, and some people made barriers as well. I think a portion of the response to the movie is a factor, but not the sole reason. Ex:

    -Less wiggle room with the story and characters arcs and motivations compared to TFA.
    -Forum folk shutting down things quick
    -People not wanting to invest in likely subversion, etc. anymore
    -Not enough meat left to the story of this trilogy to speculate on.

    All these things make it hard to start a new speculation thread without it getting trashed. People are at the stage of wanting hard evidence based theories, and unfortunately no one has any, and leaks have been hard to come by since the call sheets slipped. I actually think, depending on how this goes in IX, theories may pick up afterward to fill in the gaps of time or events not covered in ancillary material, etc. It definitely is different in tone all over the SW forums just due to this movie. Things will need to settle down first.

    I mean, I could supply you again with speculation/ theories regarding the saber. It was shattered, and could there be something important inside Rey discovers? I just don't think these current storytellers care enough, or at least they have yet to demonstrate they do on screen. That's where George is missed.

    Rinzlers Making of Empire

     
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    I think Theories are going to live on regardless of the films, it's a part of the Star Wars fan spirit. TLJ may have tempered them? I for one can't predict anything so I've given up trying to theorize, it's probably for the best. I just want to see a fun Star Wars movie again.
     
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    Writers are not beholden to fan theories when they write their movies/shows/books.

    However, good writers have a long term vision for the story, and have clues interspersed throughout the story itself foreshadowing what is to come. Game of Thrones does this perfectly and in ways the ST can only dream of. GoT didn't make Jon Snow a you-know-what in order to simply appease the people who made fan theories. That storyline wasn't mere fan service, that was the plan all along, and there were clues to this fact all over the place (especially as we got closer and closer to the big reveal).
     
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    Does anyone know what happens in IX? No? Well, then I reckon fan theories will survive just fine. ;)
     
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    The problem is none of the characters have any purpose. Rey and Finn are expected to take on the responsibility of others while there is nothing in it for them. This is not their fight. The only theory some want to talk about is Rey and Kylo balancing the force which is the dumbest thing I ever heard. No one needs these two for anything. Expecting one who killed his parents and the other whose parent's were scum to become leaders is insane. What is there to look forward to? Why should we care?
     
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