Don't Fall for the Backlash Hype: The Last Jedi is Huge Hit

It is the Rocky 5 of a GFFA.

 

I have to kindly disagree. Just because the movie is doing well in the box office doesn't mean that more people love it than they hate it. TLJ had fans dying with awesome expectations and many were dying to see the outcome of Rey meeting Luke, her training, Snoke ect. As die hard fans, many of us buy many tickets even before the movie comes out not knowing if it is going to be awesome or a piece of trash. It's the hype and nothing more.

Take a look at the PT as an example. TPM wich is said to be hated with all it's Jar Jar Binks glory is still in the list of the highest grossing movies of all time. If so many SW fans hated that movie with passion, how is it still there? Fan hype. So many fans were expecting that movie that the film is still high on that list. Do you have any idea how many fans were crazy to finally see Luke pull out his green lightsaber? That alone had so many people storming theatres to finally see their childhood hero in action not expecting to see the joke that Disney made him out to be.

 

If you would have read the whole original post completely you can see that the OP points out that there is a majority that like the film more than those who hate it. While he did start talking about box office expectations, his post is mainly about fans true feelings (loved it/hated it) about the film.

 

The toy market in general is doing bad. That alone is hurting merchandise sells for TLJ for than a "bad" movie. Toys-R-Us is in bankruptcy. That alone should tell you about the toy market.

 

and with the comparison to justice league of all things you lose me again. Justice league opened at a third of TLJ. Disney are targeting new blood with this film. You are just a doomonger who is calling the race far too early.

 

Because the hate was over-exaggerated. TPM isn't just one of highest grossing films of all-time, it's one of the leggiest. The masses went back over and over again to see that film. They don't do that with films they hate.

 

Here good friend this is an example of what I mean:

When you say things like ''the true measure of what people who have seen TLJ think about the film'' and then talk about millions of people not liking the film yet that being only 11%, you are clearly talking about liking and disliking the movie and not just how well it's doing in the box office.

 

I couldn't agree more, but determining just how many people love or hate it out of the population of this planet we call Earth will never be something quantifiable or proven. Only from subjectable data.

 

I think it has to do with more than Toys-R-Us. What Disney has done with the toy market of TLJ is just garbage. There is almost nothing worth it in the figures and almost all figures are the very same characters that we already got in TFA. Not even a single new alien or Droid makes this toyline really bad.

 

No, pitching it to Iger at such an early stage in the production is unusual. The complete creative freedom Rian had seems to be gone. And yes, we can be unbiased. I love some aspects of the movie and hate others leading to an overall meh experience. How is that biased?

 

Oh please and I could show you numerous sites with really mediocre ratings. Why cherrypick a site with favourable reviews but ignore RT or IMDB ratings, box offcie drops below expectations and many mediocre reviews from websites focused on SW. Don't try to make this movie a masterpiece, it's not going to happen. I will never forget Mark's expression when he said he had to play Luke Skywalker as Jake Skywalker. They shoudl have listened to Hamill.

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They didn't do this with any other SW movie. Lucasfilm had complete creative control and they would show the materialf ilmed on shareholder meetings but not before production has even started. I've been in the industry long enough to see that something like this means that something isn't going according to plan. But I know that you will defend TLJ no matter what, even if Forbes (and many other newsoutlets for that matter) feature articles that cleary show that TLJ has the mostr apid decrease in ticket sales of any SW movie. I would really like to read minds and see what makes you think "fastest decline in tickets sales in the franchise = success".

 

Wasn't Hamill's final verdict that The Last Jedi was the best Star Wars movie since Empire Strikes Back

Didn't Hamill say that in the end he was satisfied by the way his character turned out in The Last Jedi.

 

I think there is no chance of that. Rian Johnson is clearly talented, the blow back by some fans are largely related to issues they had with his story decisions (or in some cases, non-decisions).

 

If they don't sell that much tickets as the first time does that mean that its a bad movie?