How Palpatine survived and his motives to stay hidden

Unfortunately I think we will have no explanation. He just survived, that's it.

 

Sure. But the very point of the OT is the rebellion taking down the evil sith forces and in fact, not.

Maul is basically anecdotal in this saga.

 

His hold on power would have been tenuous at best after the Rebel victory. The Emperor knew that the sentiment of the galaxy at large was against him and his contingency plan was to allow the galaxy to fall into disorder so that they would be ready to accept the stability of a heavy handed central government again.

If the Rebel alliance is defeated and he has a Death Star, it doesn't matter what the citizens of the galaxy think. But once the rebels won, it would have been very difficult to clamp it all back down. The celebrations were galaxy wide based on the final scene of the special edition.

Setting himself up as the answer to a problem he created worked the first time around. I think it is natural he would have gone for round two.

 

Yes and no because they destroyed all they did build in this ST. Han's son is evil because his parents weren't interested in him and rather hunt raghtars or being a politician and Luke is basically the reason of the fall of Kylo Ren.

So it's a strange story we are witnessing. Characters just destroying what they accomplished.

 

Perhaps it was going to take 30 years to build that enormous fleet of Star Destroyers with Death Star technology. Also, if you think you will live forever, thirty years doesn't seem like that long to wait to reclaim your galaxy.

 

I don't agree with this. Han became in essence who he always was. Life happens. It does not lower what they accomplished, but sometimes as Luke says in The last jedi, you accomplish really large things, and believe in your own myth, your own press so to speak. At some point you have fulfilled your dreams, but you still have to wake up the next day, only now when things go wrong, and they will, it clashes with the myth of yourself that you have built up and you have an identity crises. The results of this we see.

Leia: goes back to fighting in a underfunded resistance
Han: runs away to being a smuggler, scoundrel
Luke: hides himself on a planet so he doesn't have to confront his failure.

But as Yoda hinted at, your students will learn more from their teachers failures than from their successes.

I love the old EU, but one consistent problem I had with it was how unrealistic the stories were. I mean Han and Leia in the old EU have 3 kids. One kills the other and the third is killed as well. The odds of their marriage surviving this much tragedy is slim if we are realistic. yet in the EU Han and Leia move on with little impact.

Now I like the character of Mara Jade, but the version of the story that JJ set up, places the characters in much different circumstances than we expected them in, and I'm okay with that.

 

Palpy changed? No. If anything he'll be more terrifying. But like all major villains, they over estimate their power and under estimate their opponents resolve.

 

Couldnt he just be a holocron? Rey/kylo or both could be trying to find it for some reason, and discover that this was his dead man's switch. If "everything happened as he has foreseen" then laying a final trap that could ruin a new republic/Jedi order seems like his play. Pyric victory.

Alternately, maybe he's a clone?

 

100% agree.

 

Well Luke as a Force Projection touched and kissed Leia on the forehead in TLJ:

 

As I wrote above, it seems that way but we don't know if Leia feels anything...

 

Yes but Luke when he kisses Leia on the head does so as if he’s there, but later when Kylo sticks his crimson blade in Luke he distorts like a hologram.

 

Also, doesn't Luke hand the dice to Leia? And she holds them? They eventually disappear but she is able to interact with them for a time. This makes me wonder if Luke could have simulated his presence on Crait physically, as in, actually duel Kylo Ren with blades making contact.

 

Sorry for such a newb question but how do I like a post? I've clicked all around. Been to the FAQ. There are several I'd like to give funny and likes to.

Thanks in advance.

 

Hi, welcome to the forum. You have to reach 30 posts first, then you can use the likes etc.

 

You are correct. I would have preffered Kylo and Luke cross blades in their duel (and have Luke use his emerald blade). Then as Luke’s Force Projection weakens, Kylo stabs him and the hologram fading/distorting happens.

 

A good writer could easily explain how Plapatine survived. But a good writer would never think of bringing him back. Plapatine returning is truly a sign that this trilogy was a waste of time.