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SPECULATION Is Leia Going to Be Killed in TLJ?

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by Darth Sentus, Apr 16, 2017.

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Will Leia Die In Episode lX?

Poll closed Dec 16, 2018.
  1. Yes

    37 vote(s)
    38.1%
  2. No

    25 vote(s)
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  3. Kylo Will Kill Her

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  4. She Just Won't Appear Because of Carrie's Death

    21 vote(s)
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  5. GENERAL GRIEVOUS WILL JUST POP UP OUT OF NOWHERE AND JUST *cough**cough*

    11 vote(s)
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  1. Darth Sentus

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    A recast will divide the fans more than the PT or TFA ever will.
     
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    Agreed.
     
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    Yes, but Trevorrow's comments was well before Carrie Fisher passed, and clearly well before the script for IX had been written. Iger's comment clearly still allows for Leia dying in TLJ. But also keep in mind how what Disney planned to do has evolved, culminating in what KK said. Taking KK at her word, the facts she described would have been known when Iger made his comments. Disney first said no CGI. Todd Fisher said they were going to use leftover footage for her to appear in EP IX - KK says he is confused. KK says the script wasn't written and Carrie will not appear. Thus, they are left with the only sensible option (that looks like it took a couple of months to arrive at) and that is having her die in TLJ, potentially using leftover footage.
     
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    Again, his point was that Fisher and Leia are not one in the same. KK did not say Leia wouldn't be in 9. She said Carrie wouldn't be. So.... that either means she may be recast, or they will write the script in such as way that does not require Leia to be on screen, but still have a presence, similar to Palpatine in Ep 4.
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    Yes, but you miss the point. If Trevorrow said he planed to use Leia in EP 9, that means she lived in the script and movie that Rian finished shooting. The writers collaborate. Trevorrow would have been well aware of the outcome of Leia's character in Ep 8, before making a comment like that. Couple that with Igers comments about them not making any changes to Ep.8 as a result of Fishers passing, means SHE DOES NOT DIE IN 8. Period. There would have been no need for an emergency "re-grouping" in January had Leia not been intended to be in Ep.9. Common sense folks.

    This whole discussion should not be if she lives in 8, but how they will handle Fishers absence for the making of 9.
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    She said Carrie would not be 9. Leia and Carrie are not one in the same. In the minds of fans they are, yes I understand that, but in reality and in the world of making a movie, they are not. KK was very careful with her words when she said Carrie and not Leia.
     
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    Yes, Okay. Great point. Sorry for misunderstanding.
     
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    I don't want a recast. You recast characters like Piet or Mothma. You don't recast a character as interwoven as Leia. Archive film is more appropriate.
     
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    You're still mixing the timeline. How can you say a film is going to appear unaltered but also add in a scene of a character dying after shooting is complete? The only way the two can work together is that Leia was originally planned to die in VIII. Which I would be fine with but that would mean either Trevorrow was lying or he didn't know what was going to happen in VIII.

    Edit: Apparently Darth Chewie already said everything I wrote here. And worded it much better as well. :)
     
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    Okay @Dr Jerrone, @Darth Chewie, and rest ,

    How do you suppose now, that they portray her in IX...if she doesn't die in Ep. VIII, like you're saying.
    A Recast Has Already Been Pointed Out As 'Not The Best Option.'

    She Is Not Going To Be In Ep.IX, which is where things get tough.

    Onscreen Mentions of Leia Without Her Up There-Are Fine With Me.
    I am also thinking Trevorrow may be wording things to CONFUSE us. It is very possible he is lying to take advantage of protecting spoilers and the confusing situation. I think he is lying, but if not, how do they portray her in IX without Carrie Fisher.

    Let Me Know What You Think!
     
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    very confusing.my guess is she was intended for IX but they rewrote the script and will announce her death in the opening crawl of IX.
     
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    "Not The Best Option" is purely opinion based. In my opinion, for example, I believe it probably is the best option. Sure it's tough to think about but it's more than likely the only way that they finish the character with fulfilling ending.

    Trevorrow said some of these things before Fisher died. The only reason I bring him up is to show that Leia won't die in VIII, I'm not using his quote as proof she'll be in IX.

    All I know is that her death being in the scroll feels bad, her not being around at all feels even worse, and her dying in VIII would require the changing of the film which is unlikely based on the evidence previously laid out.

    The only options left are a true recast (my preference, no matter how painful) or a soft recast where Leia is not fully featured and someone does voice work for her. To me the latter option might feel a little bit like a ruse, almost like they are trying to trick you into believing Fisher is there. If another actor portrays her and does so with reverence to the character then I think that would be the best option.
     
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    Very Confusing Indeed.
    We will have to wait and see.
    Thanks for clarifying!
     
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    I think the latest Nerdist spoiler information may help shed some light on what happens to Leia...

    Potential Spoiler Alert:
     
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    They should probably think about getting some people who actually know anything about Star Wars on the show before deciding to discuss it. That was actually just painful to watch.
     
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    I agree...far more knowledgeable people on other YouTube channels/shows.
     
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    if i may add. the force theme take a dark twist in the final scene with Rey, builds to a crescendo and then suddenly stops!
    The screen changes to the classic stars and blue text like the other SW films but silent, and the first words on the screen before the actual credits are

    For Carrie...



    The rest of the credits its just Leias and Luke and Leia and Han and Leias themes
     
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    As an absolute avid fan of Princess Leia, I'm really struggling to work out what is going to happen with Leia. She was obviously going to be in Episode IX, but I will be really disappointed if her death in the film is just explained in the opening crawl of Episode IX. She deserves more than that if she is to be killed off. However I really don't see any other way they can do this?

    If she is killed off in TLJ wouldn't they have had to do some reshoots to show her death? She needs to go out in a blaze of glory (as I believe someone has previously mentioned) or in some HUGE scene with Luke or Ben. I just hope whatever happens Leia/Carrie gets the final scene that she deserves
     
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    Carrie Fisher's death, tragic as it was, is I argue one of the biggest monkey-wrenches LucasFilm was tossed. The ST isn't finished and for her to go midway, yeah; all that planning will need to be retooled. As for episode nine; I could see LucasFilm doing an ST Beyond with Leonard Nimoy's death.

    But really, I could see some fans not feeling like that it is kind of anti-climatic. So I can only hope that Episode Eight can be cut in such a way that Leia's influence in the film is felt. Because to get personal; one of the things that pissed me off about TFA was how Leia was handled. To be fair, Carrie has been out of acting for years.

    But man, was she dull. Leia is one of my favorite SWs characters. Legends made me such a big fan of hers. She did the jobs that Luke and Han couldn't do: politics and diplomacy. It is all too easy to forget that the rebellion is a political battle and one needs allies. My hope is that TLJ will use this opportunity for us to see Leia in her environment. Kind of like what Bloodline did.

    And showcase to people that politics in SWs CAN work. If it is not only well-executed, but you have a character that everyone can sympathize with and likes. And it is hard to argue that Princess Leia isn't a better candidate to showcase this aspect in a galaxy far far away on the silver screen.
     
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    I agree...this is just a summary but, the reason he didn't feel the overwhelming call of the Darkside was because his Mother was still alive. He killed Han, but now he needs to kill Leia for the complete calling from the Darkside.
    Check this out if you want the full explanation: This Is What I Think, On Youtube Search: Kylo Ren and The Darth Malgus Theory.;):)
    Why Kylo Ren was Defeated in The Force Awakens (The Darth Malgus Theory)
     
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    Yes, she dies
     
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