SPECULATION Is Luke Rey's Father? - The Evidence For and Against

It really is interesting how people blame the Jedi for what was simply a clever and devious Sith plan.
The Jedi kept the peace for a thousand years. They had thousands of Jedi in their order. Only 20 had ever left.
Rather than risk anything, it was far simpler to forbid marriage and family life because of the fact that it is far harder to be non-attached.
It can be done. But requires constant training and a constant struggle. And the Jedi didn't need to take that risk and the Jedi couldn't devote time to that rather than doing their duty. So they forbid it. BUT Jedi could leave. Like I said, 20 did. If they wanted a different life they could go. It's telling that only 20 ever did.

Now obviously for Anakin this was a difficult order for him to join. It was likely harder for him because he was already attached to his mother.
Could the Jedi have made exceptions? Perhaps. But Kenobi did kind of force them into a corner. Could they really make him a special case? If he was serious about being a Jedi he'd just have to live with it. At this point the prophecy was a prediction. It wasn't and never was an absolute thing. It wasn't fate. The Jedi couldn't really change it all for Anakin. In hindsight there is a chance they perhaps should've been more flexible. But it is still likely the end result would've been the same. Anakin just didn't want to let go.

Things were different for Luke post-ROTJ. He had a family around him. He could perhaps see that one could be non-attached and still have a family. He managed in when he threw down his saber on the Death Star II.

But he'd also know the risk. He'd know the struggle. And he'd know that being a father requires a lot of time and devotion.
Would he be so selfish as to ignore his duty? Risk it? Neglect the Force's will? Would he want his students to do that same?
Luke is the last hope for the Jedi. I'd seriously question the idea that Luke would change this. That's he'd go against Yoda's guidance from his training on Dagobah.

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Luke - in his struggle accepting what he should do. I'd rush off and try and save my friends. But then I'd do that because I am attached to them. And like Luke's choice, it would be wrong.

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Again, for the last time, yes- it is possible to have romantic partners and children and be non-attached.
But it is extremely difficult, requires on-going training and discipline and devotion.
Now consider Luke post-ROTJ.
He has the weight of the Jedi order on his shoulders. He has to build a new order and get it right.
Would he ignore what Yoda taught him? Would he risk having a wife and kids, knowing that one can easily become attached? Would he allow his students to take the same path? Would he devote precious time to being a father and husband rather than as the only remaining Jedi?

It doesn't make sense to me that the Luke we saw in ROTJ would do that. Not after what he learned, achieved, gave up and promised.

 

What the hell? Where did I say that? I've said the opposite. Jeez.

The message is that he shouldn't have rushed off to save his friends. It wasn't the right thing to do as he wasn't prepared to face Vader. Yoda and Ben were right. His friends were put in more jeopardy because of him and he could've been turned or killed. You have to be non-attached so you can see things clearly, act rationally and do what is right.

 

The perfect example of non-attachment is seen with Kenobi:

He loves Satine but sticks to his duty, allows her to do hers and hopes she is happy.
And in ROTS he literally fights his best friend and brother. You think he wanted to do that? No. But it was the right thing to do.
Then he goes into exile for 20 years to watch over Luke. Doesn't have a life. Becomes a hermit.
Then he literally sacrifices his own life so Luke can get away.

Pure selflessness. A true Jedi.

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"The Lost Twenty". And they didn't turn bad. They just left. Dooku was one of them.

 

Yes, but he knew it was a trap. But he went anyway.

"It is your abilities the Emperor wants, that is why your friends are made to suffer".
"That is why I have to go to them".

Luke didn't know what was happening to them, but he knew they were in pain. And without being ready he rushed off.
In the end he he could've turned and been killed and he could've got Leia captured.
The point is he rushed off because of his attachment (and yes, maybe his anger at Vader too).

And Satine knew that Kenobi should remain a Jedi. Even so, my point stands - Kenobi was non-attached and so made choices based on that. Had he been attached he would've made the same mistakes Anakin did.

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"Luminous beings are we...not this crude matter!".

"And sacrfice Han and Leia?!"
"If you honour what they fight for, yes".

"What's in there?"
"Only what you take with you".

There is more but I have to get back to work!

 

Briefly, the Jedi were upset about Dooku's departure. So I see it as "lost" in an affectionate way. They rue their departures.
The 20 were the jedi that simply left. Dooku was regarded as the last of the 20 and they didn't know he had become a Sith. They referred to him as being one of the lost 20 and Jucosta Nu remarked that they were sad he left. She even says he left because he disagreed with the council or something. So, im afraid you're wrong on that one!