SPECULATION Is Luke Rey's Father? - The Evidence For and Against

Some people do what they can do ... Asking more is quite much.

 

So I'm a bad guy then?

 

So, I was just browsing this forum (more of lurker anyways), and came across the BB-8 origin speculation. Try to hear me out.


There, user lealt mentioned the connection between Luke & Poe Dameron. Namely, Shara Bey, Poe's mother, assisted Luke shortly after Endor to receive the remnants of a Force tree, one of which she got to keep. So we know Poe grew up around a Force tree.

We also know, from the book Before the Awakening, that Shara Bey died some 20 years before the Force Awakens, around the same time Rey was (presumably) born.

So what if Rey is Poe's sister, growing up around a Force tree? Perhaps she has a special attunement with the Force.

Then their mother dies, and the kids are being taken away. Poe with his dad, where he grows up to be the plot we know today. And Rey is taken in by someone who recognizes her Force potential (maybe Luke), until something happened that left her stranded in Jakku.


I leave it here to be picked apart (foremost "Rey Bey" is a worse name than Evan Sleazebaggano), because many things with this theory don't add up right now.

For instance, Daisy Ridley herself said it was clear in the film that we would know who her parents are/ were. However, lots of the film was left on the cutting room floor..


I just thought it would be a different view, besides the Skywalker/ Kenobi/ Solo conondrum.

 

I disagree Because didn't Bey die 4 years before Rey was born?

 

Well, I believe it was the Visual Dictionary that stated her date of birth? Those can be contradicted. I remember the one from Episode 1, where it was stated that Battle Droids were modelled after the skeletons of Neimodians. Have to look it up though..

Also, Poe learned later on of Shara's death. Again, those dates could be estimates.

However, I agree that this is a far off theory, especially for the average movie goer.


Now I do remember that in early drafts (or leaks of them), it was stated that Rey had (more) screentime with Poe. Almost at times looking up at him. As in looking up to a brother like figure? This was later changed into a fatherlike figure with Han Solo.

I just liked to put out a different, 'out there' theory.

 

I'm referring to his order. It didn't fail but was betrayed and destroyed by Kylo Ren. As for Rey, we don't know how she ended up on Jakku or how Luke dealt with it if she is his daughter. I'm sure we'll get a logical explanation and good story for how she ended up on Jakku and how Luke responded that fits what we've been given so far.

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Shara Bey died 5 years after ROTJ. Rey was born 11 years after ROTJ. She can't be Rey's mother and Pablo Hildago has specifically stated she wasn't Rey's mother on his twitter which has been posted here I believe.

 

They better have ...

 

I don't think it was Luke who left her there. The moment where a man's voice tells her he will come back for her takes place in a forest during a snow storm and not a desert so clearly isn't referring to her being left on Jakku but a different place and time. We actually know nothing about the circumstances of her abandonment on Jakku.

 

Well, we know she was with Unkar Plutt. Lor San Tekka and Rey didn't know each other. It's in the books. Rey's surivival guide.

 

I say no for the simple fact that when Fin tells Ray about the map to Luke she says "Luke Skywalker, I thought he was a myth" witch makes me think that she only new about Luke from story's and rumours, and she was about 7 or 8 ( just a guess) when she was left on Jakku so if Luke was her father she would remember him but that is my thoughts on it.

 

Maybe Luke wasn't the one who dropped her off and she didn't spend much of her childhood with him

 

Yeah, but they are essentially forbidden to feel romantic love.

Because that's so easy when you have dedicated your entire life to training as a Jedi and already feel like a failure?

He wasn't exactly told that, but he was told that attachments lead to fear of loss and that fear is the path to the dark side. It's the same.

Look. Anakin was stuck in a vicious cycle. He wanted to become this great Jedi, but at the same time, he felt enormous guilt and pain. He couldn't talk to any of his friends about the vision he had, because he was afraid of getting kicked out of the order.
Palpatine was the only person he could tell the truth and he presented him with a solution to his problems, unlike the Jedi.

Had the Jedi Code not forbidden attachments, Anakin wouldn't have gone to the dark side and the galaxy wouldn't have had to suffer through 23 years of terror.

 

It's more complicated than that. Anakin was not strong enough to leave, he wanted to learn more to become more powerful. He wanted to safe others from feeling what he had to feel.

The Jedi Code amplified his fear.
in his mind, had he been caught, he would've lost the ability to help the galaxy.

Again, it's not as easy as you say it is. He was thrown into the Jedi order and told that he would bring balance to the force. You don't just abandon that. Had he spoken to Yoda or Obi-Wan about it, he would've been kicked out of the order. As I said, he was stuck in a vicious cycle.

He wouldn't necessarily have had an easier life, but at least he wouldn't have been alone. He would not have fallen, because he would have had real friends that he didn't need to keep a dark secret from.

You make it sound like the Jedi are a sect. To leave Shmi behind was a big mistake. The Jedi have to safe suffering people when they have the chance.

 

If I recall, there was someone on this thread suggesting that Kennedy's use of "the saga films being the Skywalker story" was only in reference to I - VI.

Just to clear that up:

 

I can't see how anyone can love without attachment myself. The word in relation to people and institutions has meant “sympathy, devotion” since the early eighteenth century and today means “affection”.

At least Mr Lucas not following Orwell's advice to “let the meaning choose the word and not the other way around” has ensured endless lively discussion on SW forums!

 

Love is acceptance ...

Love with attachment is passion.

 

@master_shaitan. People arent possessions. If you are possessive of the people you care about, that isn't ok for anyone, thats abuse.

No, acceptance is acceptance. Love is caring for someone more than you care about yourself. If you dont, you dont truly love them.

Honestly this whole "love without attachment" thing is a bit condescending.

"I care enough to save your life if I have to, but not enough to involve myself in your life in any meaningful way."

Kind of like the popular kid in school telling the nerd. "Yeah, I like you and all, but we arent friends"