SPECULATION Is Luke Rey's Father? - The Evidence For and Against

Lor San Tekka hid Rey there for Luke and also had his map. Luke was hiding Rey from Snoke. He was watching Rey from afar like OB1 did for Luke.

Sex and child birth do not require "attachments". One could say by leaving Rey on Jakku that Luke was avoiding "attachments".

 

I'm not saying Luke is necessarily wise enough nor do I think that he would think he was but it was up to him to decide, based on the knowledge he had or was able to find about the Jedi Order both the PT and ancient Orders and what he thought was right from his own experiences, what the rules for his order would be. BTW; I did provide movie proof for the code being changeable with my Qui-Gon example from TPM. Also this isn't just about attachments but other parts of the code as well. Given that we don't know most of it, there are any number of things in the PT Code that, like Qui-Gon, Luke may have felt were outdated or didn't apply to the situation and circumstances under which he was building his order like the one apprentice rule.

 

The "no attachments" thing was basically the downfall of the Jedi Order. Luke can have kids.

 

No ...

Please take a look at the final episodes of the clone wars and you'll have your answers. This statement is false.

The jedi order went down because they thought that they could bring peace by going at war.

Pure partial speculation and total misunderstanding of the saga to your own purpose. That's what I can't stand. Changing history to make your point.

This is worth a quarter portion.

--- Double Post Merged, Jan 11, 2017, Original Post Date: Jan 11, 2017 ---

Outdated based on what ? His sexual desire ? Is it ... wise ? Is it ... what jedis do ? Being pushed by their own pleasure and benefit ?

 

I saw some fans saying "but this family need someone who has parallel to Anakin, not just Vader!" but Kylo Ren have parallels with Anakin too (being seduced by someone powerful, changing his name, killing padawans... probably we'll see more). Ben Solo already represents two sides of his grandfather.

Plus in according to Snoke, Kylo Ren had the right balance of the dark and light sides of the Force in him. So the "Kylo is the dark and Rey will be the light of the family" theory don't make sense

 

Kylo and Rey both have that balance.

 

I did not misunderstand the saga.
They lost the chosen one because they told him it was forbidden to fall in love. The "narrow, dogmatic view of the Jedi" was what made Anakin fall to the dark side.

 

No it was because Anakin was an ambitious and arrogant brat who thought he knew things better than others and he was worth not obeying the rules.

The jedis have nothing to do with him going to the dark side, it was his passion for Padme ( the idea of Padme ) and his attachment to his mother ( you know the scene where he killed all the sand people ) ...

He always wanted power and power is the goal of the dark side. He was doomed from the start.

Does the jedi have something to do with this ?

 

He was afraid because he thought his wife would die. He couldn't tell any of his friends, he was alone. This pushed him over the edge.

 

That's why jedis don't have to marry ... You know passion is not love. Being attached leads to the fear to lose. Jedis are not psychotherapists.

May I put here the sith code ?

There is no peace, there is passion ...

See the fight between Anakin and Clovis above and tell me how this is the jedis fault ?

 

Again, this is not about sexual desire or wish fulfillment for Luke to have a child. However, if Qui-Gon thought parts of the code was outdated, Luke might think the same thing about those parts of the code and ignore others because he really had no other choice (the one apprentice rule). I'm also saying that he would have the authority to decide what the code for his order would be since it appears to be canon that Yoda and his council had the authority to do so if they saw fit and he would be a Jedi regardless of what he did or did not retain of the PT Jedi code. As I said before, we don't know how much of the PT Jedi code was part of the code for the era that proceeded it. It's possible that the no attachment rule was only a PT Jedi addition to the code and Luke chose to follow an older code. Personally, I would rather see the Jedi moved away from the PT monks and back to the OT Samurais than for the PT Jedi to be resurrected in the ST.

 

Do Luke knows Qui Gon ? Did Qui Gon was specifically talking about attachment ?

What part of the jedi code would you change ? Well, let me guess ...

But one thing is sure, if Luke had a family, he failed with them and he failed big.

 

Imagine being told as a young boy that falling in love is a bad thing...
Anakin is angry at himself because he thinks that he is not the person he should be and he can't talk to anyone about it either. This is the fundamental flaw of the Jedi Code

 

Poor dude, he just needed someone to talk and then he killed billions people And he started by killing unarmed children ...

So sad.

 

Well, that's kind of the point.
The only person he thought he could talk to about his feelings was an evil Sith lord.

 

We're never told what Qui-Gon thought was outdated and should be changed but that's beside the point. I wasn't suggesting he and Luke communicated just that they may have seen the code the same way. Whether the attachment rule was part of it or not is irrelevant. I'm just saying that Luke, like Yoda before him, had the authority to decide what the code for his order would be and that he and his order would be Jedi regardless of what, if any, PT codes were discarded including the attachment rule. From what we know, Luke didn't fail but was betrayed by Kylo Ren.

 

Brace yourselves!
Dislikes & storm cloudsare coming!


Let the Jedi know what ♡ is!!!!!!

 

"Clouded x 1" did i said something wrong?

 

--- Double Post Merged, Jan 12, 2017, Original Post Date: Jan 12, 2017 ---

Rey was on Jakku a long time before Little Benny went out of control. So Luke had better things to do than watching his family. He got over their loss quite fast.

 

Hold on youngling. I changed it to . Feel better? I whish there was an option like "from my point of view". Don't feel sad! Debate with people like me! B strong!