SPECULATION Is Luke Rey's Father? - The Evidence For and Against

It's not enough to simply disagree and state your opinion. You have to go a step further and dislike the post. That's not a very nice way to go about making your point.

 

There's no original reporting in that link.

There was only like 2 shots of Rey in the Cinemacon footage, both supposedly from the earlier Disney shareholders event.

It's not like Luke mentoring Rey in the ways of the Force is unexpected (Yoda & Luke).



And while I don't think Luke is Rey's father at all, they aren't going to directly reveal it in the marketing anyway.

 

The only way I see Rey's mom being the big reveal is if she is a bigger character from cannon or legends. For example, Mara Jade, or Doctor Aphra. It just seems to me that unless her mother and or father were someone relatively important or related to someone who was related to some relatively important there would be no reason to drag the mystery out. If she is Rey Random why not make that more definitive in TFA? Why build up so much hype around her family? Why have this mystery at all just to say "By the way she is a new random individual." I'm not saying that isn't the case. It just seems weird to me.

 

That's assuming redeeming him is their plan. JJ said he had Kylo kill Han to show he was unredeemable. If he is unredeemable, there won't be a redemption. Either way, Kylo's importance is because he's the main villain and Leia's son not because of any connection to Rey either romantic or as his conduit to redemption.

 

I think that just because someones actions don't make sense doesn't mean they wouldn't have done it. people do crap that doesn't make sense all the time. Remember we don't know the logic one might use to come to their conclusion. If I think that bagels cure cancer it doesn't make it so but My mind is working in a way where I believe that that if I eat one bagel everyday I will never have cancer. It is literally impossible for me to always understand why someone else thinks the way they think but just because I don't think it makes sense doesn't mean it doesn't makes sense to someone else. That being said My logical conclusion may not be truth. Think about this way, an atheist can't understand why a christian would waste his/her Sunday mornings in a hallelujah joint, visa versa Christians can't understand how atheists don't believe in God. My lack of understanding of something doesn't make it wrong or impossible.

 

I don't think a non-film character would work as a big reveal. Even Mara Jade 95% of the audience won't have heard of. Doctor Aphra 99.9% of the audience won't know.

It is clear they are deliberately building up the issue of Rey's family, but that may not be for a big reveal. It may be misdirection to stop us asking other questions. Or it may be that the search for belonging is a key theme of the ST (applies to Rey, Finn, Luke, Kylo, Han and Leia).

I'm convinced that Luke isn't the father because they have already hinted at that possibility so openly, but I admit I thought Chancellor Palpatine couldn't be Darth Sidious because it was too obvious!

 

I've changed 2 disagree. I'm sorry. Butttttttttt..... Let's face facts. Han is ded. Carrie is gone. I'm more certain Ben/Ren will dy by 9 then Luke & of course Luke is old.

Rey HAVES 2 b a Skywalker.

 

That's what the Anthology films are 4 Padawan. Let us old masters who been there in the lean years, WHEN ALL WE HAD WAS WILLOW & WEST END GAMES, let us keep that family going!

 

They're not really interested in new characters like Jyn and Ezra, they're interested in ****ty romantic shipping without incest. That's why they don't complain about Kylo Ren being a Skywalker trying to copy Darth Vader. But really incest would be really low on the list of crimes that Kylo Ren has already committed.

 

Actually, Mara Jade is far more widely known among even casual fans than that simply because she became Luke's wife. Virtually every article written about Rey's origins mentions her. She's one of the only non-film characters to have had multiple action figures released including some that included comic books. Most everyone I know is familiar with her and I'm pretty much the only super fan. Given that core Star Wars fans probably make up 20 to 30% of the movie going audience, all of which would know who she is, I would say at least 50 to 60% of the audience would have at least heard of her. I agree with you on Aphra though.

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Whether or not Kylo is redeemed has no bearing on the message of the OT. Not every Skywalker has to be redeemed. I know JJ said somewhere that Kylo felt regret but he also said he had Kylo kill Han to show he was unredeemable. Those are contradicting statements so I don't think it can be said to established that he felt regret. From what I saw, after watching it again, I don't see regret but someone angrier and even a little crazed after he killed his father.

 

They sold hundreds of millions of tickets to people to see TFA. That's not counting people that saw it for the first time on home video rentals or illegally.

The old/new EU is like a drop in a big bucket of water in comparison. Was/Is that even translated to all the languages that the films are globally?

 

The proof that JJ said that? And there's hints that Kylo will have some sort of redemption because of Rey:





JJ Abrams in the TFA commentary:

"People have asked me if I think that Kylo Ren was just playing with him the whole time, if he meant to kill him from the beginning. And the truth is, I think that Kylo Ren in this moment is actually being convinced to walk away from this. Snoke is, as Han says, using him. And I think that somewhere Ben knows this. But I think that he can’t accept it deep down. He has gone too far.

But then, the idea was that in this moment, where he’s taking the lightsaber and offering it to him as a gesture, the sun finally is drained from the sky. And you see the light go away. And now they’re in this darkness. And darkness takes over. And as if this moment isn’t disturbing enough, he pushes the saber further in and says these terrifying two words. “Thank You.” In Kylo’s mind, what he has just done seals the deal. It’s the ultimate proof to Snoke that he is to be trusted, that he will not be seduced by the light. And I think, the instant that he’s done it, he regrets it."

From the official databank:

"But he was intrigued when he captured Rey, a Jakku scavenger whose Force abilities were raw but very powerful. A mysterious connection seemed to link the two.

But this shocking act of patricide didn’t make the former Ben Solo feel stronger – somehow he felt weaker. Kylo Ren had hoped to end the conflicts that caused him so such pain, but found he remained at war with himself, more lost than ever. "

http://www.starwars.com/databank/kylo-ren

 

He did say that when he was asked why he killed Han Solo in the movie.

 

There's like 5 people is the universe that don't want Rey to be a Sky or Solowalker, and they all found a home on this thread lol.

What is this herase, git rid of Skywalkers??? Are you even Star Wars fans!? Wtf.

And all this whining about disagree tags, and dislike tags.. whoever made this forums made them tags for a reason. Man up.

 

and this is coming from the guy that got all worked up a few pages back

@Niamor there's no use trying to get @Shadrac to cite actual quotes from people. old Shaddy mentions things people have (supposedly) said but has yet to produce evidence directly. besides, whatever JJ quote he's referencing in regards to Kylo could have been taken out of context, or JJ may have been using hyperbole to make a point. who knows.