SPECULATION Is Luke Rey's Father? - The Evidence For and Against

Han Solo ghost saying : Hey I wanted to throw you on an escape pod and I laughed so hard inside when you said you were going back to Jakku to wait for me but I forgot to say that I'm your father ...

 

You can dance around this all you want but this is the simple fact. The story group/Lucasfilm/Rian Johnson all in some way had a hand in authorizing/creating a Leia/Family novel set just six years before TFA. The book is titled Bloodline and it's about Leia and her family. The book could have come out in two years and been just as good. Based on that book having a daughter that isn't mentioned would be ridiculous.

Again, that could be what they're going for here.... they'll just hit the retcon button. Based on what we've seen so far it does't seem like the story group would do that.

 

Or he remembered that some force users are capable of reading people's mind and remembered that he and Leia determined to hide her from who she was. Instead he offers to keep her close offering her a place on the Falcon.

 

how cute !

Good daddy ! A job after 20 years of slavery

 

I know a few people have floated the idea of Rey as a reincarnated Anakin, which my droid brain calculates as having a 2.3% chance of being correct -- but have people talked about Rey as having the same kind of origin as Anakin, i.e. she was willed into being by the Force?

The recent lightsaber theory video made me think of this, and it would explain why TFA associates her with both Luke and Anakin as well as Kenobi and even Yoda, and why the Skywalker lightsaber specifically calls to her: it's not because she's related to them by blood, but because she's related to them by spirit. It doesn't matter if she was a "virgin birth" like Anakin, or if her parents weren't force sensitive, or if they were -- what matters is that the force chose her as a vessel.

In other words, it's not the Skywalker lineage that's important, it's what the Skywalker lineage literally embodies -- the living force, willing itself into being. This is what makes her connection to Luke more powerful than Kylo's connection to Luke, and why she and not Kylo is the rightful heir to the Skywalker legacy.

Edit: Apologies if this has been discussed ad nauseam already -- I'm not able to keep up with the boards like I used to due to etiquette/protocol commitments.

 

Yeah I continue to suggest that it is merely a possibility.

Yet I know that you have more imagination. If they trusted someone to take and raise her in secret to protect her from enemies that are capable of reading minds. Then the fewer details anyone knows the better. All of these objections assume that Han or Leia know all the details, that Jakku was her original destination and that her living as a junkyard scavenger for a living was the intent. I am suggesting things went wrong. Didn't everything go wrong; the Jedi were slaughtered, the happy couple split, why should we assume that if Rey is their child that her being a scavenger was intended.

1-Hey Wedge I have a mission for you. We are concerned for our daughter's safety, could you and that new wife of yours take her and raise her. This is no easy assignment we know Snoke can read minds so the less anyone knows the safer she is. Wedge and his wife run away to Malastaire to live happily ever after. Enroute to a life of obscurity and pod racing something goes wrong Wedge is forced to leave Rey with Unkar Plutt to pay off pod racing bets or else Plutts pod racing connections will kill his wife everything goes to crap. Wedge and adopted mom never return.

2-After the decision to send Ben to train is made they also want to hide Rey just in case. Luke and Lor San Takka know a guy that can keep her safe. The wide brimmed hat wearing clan leader. He raises her in their small village in a near to Jakku system. The Knigts of Ren raid the clan and kill the leader, as seen in Rey's force back. A scared refugee of the attack ends up on Jakku and leaves Rey with Plutt hoping the girl won't end up dead but skips town maybe even with the intention of returning.

I think Rey Solo is as bout as likely as likely as Rey Palatine. What I won't say is that its impossible or that there is only one way it can happen.

 

I understand the problems many of you have with a Rey Solo given Bloodline. I really do.
But I was thinking....
Do we ever see Leia in the OT thinking to his family and/or home planet?
Never.
On the contrary... She comforts Luke who has just lost a man he barely knew (while she has just lost her parents and her world) and when someone addresses her the question she just says "we need to look forward".
That's Leia.
What if (I'm just saying what if) the difference betweem Ben/Kylo and a child she thinks is dead is... Ben is not dead. He's still alive and she can fight for him...
And she does.
The interesting thing about Bloodline is that it also tells us she thinks back about Alderaan for the first time in years... but only because she's somehow forced to.
Now.. The way I see it is that the author covered a big hole in the character development: to be fair it's hard to believe how she reacts to those tragedies in the OT.
But... Maybe not.
Maybe the purpose it's to let us know (according to what we alteady know about her) how difficult is for Leia to deal, to speak and to think about those things she canno't resolve anymore.
That being said... Other problems remain.

 

I didn't read the book so here is a question.

Is the name Ben Solo used in Bloodline or it is just named as Leia's baby ?

 

Like:
- Why would the story-group authorize the book in the first place knowing it would anger book readers.
- How did Han and Leia's marriage survive a lost daughter, but they broke up over their large adult son betraying Luke.
- No one else mentions the tragedy either. Presumably Leia would have had to carry this child for 9 months. She's a high profile person.

The name "Ben" is mentioned 13 times during the book. I'm sure he's mentioned in other ways throughout the book. Never by "Ben Solo." That makes sense though since a parent rarely refers to a child by first/last name.

 

I think the problem here is when people see that force back scene with young Rey, they are focusing on what they see, but not thinking about the possibility of what we don't see. People are assuming that she's left with Plutt and not taking into consideration that someone else is present in that scene. Yes you see Plutt but what if he's not alone? What if that scene is being seen through the eyes of someone else. Been thinking a lot about the force back scenes and the lightsaber theory and been coming up with some theories of my own.

 

Rey's Survival Guide is very explicit- Unkar Plutt is the only person she "knows" and he's pretty obviously coded as having abused her. There is no reference to anyone else.

I'm sure if there had been someone else on the scene Rey would have remembered them.

 

Thanks !

 

Did she remember that moment before seeing it in the force back? Again we don't know how much she remembers or how much she's blocked out of her memory.

 

Dude, stop going through my posting history and adding a disagree tag to all my comments. Jesus.

And yes, she does. She remembers her life on Jakku completely. Just not what came before it.

 

First of all I did reply to your comment with my disagreement rating. So don't give me this I'm following you around giving you disagreement ratings bs.
Second of all where do you get that she remembers everything? Where has that been established?

 

As told I think the book has the merit to portray a more convincing character.
I find in fact hard to believe the way she reacts in the OT. Or in ANH more precisely.
However, playing the part of the the Devil Advocate

- I should say: ask to them, not me. But seriusly - "if" that would be case, they could say "the book was meant to let you understand something more/else
(something like what I said before) but you didn't see it because you don't want to.
And I don't even know if there could be another passage (clue) I've missed.
Not to mention, they could authorize another book telling that story. A book I'm sure you will not buy.

- I honestly think the latter case can be worst. If you lost a child because someone killed him/her,
you blame the person that did that for sure but you may not blame your partner.
In real life many marriages finish, it's true, but many survive.
In the other case, chances that you blame yourself and/or your partner are maybe higher. Don't you think?

- I don't think there's the need to make her hiding the pregnancy or the rest of the galaxy not knowing at all about it.
If today a high profile person looses a child you don't talk of that particulary event every time he/she's interviewed.
It would be.. rude, I think. And in 20 years... the rest of the people may just forget or not to think about it anymore.
I'm sure many famous people lost a child in the last 20 years, but I can't remember them all (not even a few).

But again: I really think a Rey Solo it's hard to believe.
As for the case of Luke you need too much explainations.

Still... here we are.

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That's what I think too.... today.
Having discuss with all of you in the last monthes - and given that too - my 2 cent are on this.
But... let's see.

 

Just press the ignore button. People who do this are disrespectful and aren't worth your time.

If Han/Leia were going to split because of a child seems like a lost daughter (no matter the cause) would have been more likely to cause them to split up than their 25+ year old large adult son going dark side.

 

Besides, how are you going to explain away the fact that absolutely no one remembers Leia Organa, Senator of the New Republic, Princess of Alderaan's pregnancy? Not Han? Not Ben? Not Luke?

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Yeah, that's what I did. Thanks!