SPECULATION Is Luke Rey's Father? - The Evidence For and Against

I was talking about real genetic not fiction one.

 

There is honestly no proof of this. Nowhere in the canon or in the EU do we see a male sibling being "stronger" in the force than the female or vice-versa. Leia was just as strong as Luke, she just chose not to become a Jedi.

 

Oh I'm trying to prove anything, guys. It's just what I feel. That's ok isn't it? It's just the correlation of father-son-grandson that's making me believe the males are stronger. It's like the linage of old kings or warlords. I'm trying not to sound sexist about it...it's just speculation.

 

Its been said by many that Leia and Luke are equal in Force potential. So speculation debunked. Leia so far is the only female descendent of Anakin available to begin with so that's really not a big sample size. Also things dont exist in a vacum, so obviously saying things like that will be perceived as sexist. The idea of the son inheriting a kingdom from his father has no basis in genes. It's just the way humans decided to do things for a long time.

 

I'll put an end to the gene argument thing by saying and admitting that I am wrong.

Anyways, I still don't think she is a Skywalker or Solo. But now it's not based on evidence, just a feeling.

 

I'm not good enough in english to really be relevant but it's not what you say but how you say it, it sounds like facts and not speculation.

 

Sorry, English is my second language also, so maybe it comes across differently to everyone. I don't really know why my statement was of importance and created an intense debate, but that's all I've seen here for a long time...one is right, one is wrong and argue about it people will do.

 

The counter argument here is the books don't really matter and they'll do what they want in the films. I guess we'll get our answer if Rey turns out to be Ben's sibling. I just can't imagine the story group/Rian Johnson would assist/authorize this book if that was the case.

 

That's gonna make this scene absolutely unwatchable and borderline cringe-worthy.




Y'all look at your sister that way?


Shame shame shame shame.

 

They wanted another boy, that's just it.

 

I don't think there's any chance that Rey's a Solo. Far too much evidence and meta data pointing towards Luke than Leia. If you take into account the movie and the trailers the allusion is pretty strong and deliberate. I know they could decide to do something totally different (which wouldn't bother me, I'd just be confused at the heavy handed misdirection when simply being circumspect would accomplish the same goal), but based on what I've seen so far, it's difficult to imagine there being a better case for Rey's parent than Luke. Nothing is definitive until the confirm it, but if you're betting person, put money on Luke.

 

While I agree with Rayjefury that Rey has next to no chance of being a Solo (barring the eventuality where all my dreams come true and ya know.. grey jedi babies)

I've been pretty consistently arguing for Rey Nobody.

Rey being Luke's kid wouldn't really line up with the events of the novels. It would make Luke an absentee parent. A deadbeat dad. How else can you explain away Rey's abandonment?

I've seen arguments that Rey's mother was the one who left her on Jakku and that Luke didn't know about them. However, can you really see LucasFilm making Luke the sort of guy who has one night stands with randos? Someone who never checks in? That seems a bit sketchy.

There's one other argument where it's argued that Rey's mum died and that's why Luke thinks that both Rey and her mum are dead. This to me seems the most plausible of the bunch. If someone had taken Rey away from the scene of her mother's death or whatever and dumped her on Jakku, that would neatly shift the blame away from both Luke and the mother.

However, this theory runs into a problem almost immediately- Rey very explicitly tells BB8 that she's waiting for her FAMILY to come back. Not her mother. Not her father. Her family.

A group of people.

And even Maz refers to them in the plural. They are never coming back. Rey's path lies in the future. With Luke. Who is referred to with a degree of separation from her family.

This leaves us with the most obvious choice (in my opinion). Rey is just a force sensitive child born to random parents. My best guess is that they either belonged to the Church of the Force or the Acolytes of the Beyond. Rey's family isn't her immediate blood relations. No. She's talking about the sect/ group her parents belonged to. Jakku is known canonically as a hotbed of force power. There's something there that drew Palpatine's attention and even Lor San Tekka. The Teedo worship the R'iia, a power that they thought caused the Battle of Jakku.



That being said, I am perhaps a bit biased against the Rey Skywalker theory. I feel like the whole Skywalker parental reveal has been done and dusted. Repeating it will just ruin the first one and take away its meaning.

It's my personal belief that Luke isn't Rey's father but rather the killer of her Dark Sider parents.

OT:

The audience goes in expecting Darth Vader to be the man who killed Luke's father.
Only to find out that Darth Vader is his father.



ST:

The audience goes in expecting Luke to be Rey's father.
Only to find out that he, in fact, killed her parents.


In the immortal words of George Lucas, it is POTTERY!

To back this wild claim is the verified leak where Kylo Ren and Rey have a conversation on Ach To that causes Luke to blow up a hut. What's Kylo telling Rey? What could induce such a reaction in Luke?

I'll let you fill in the blanks.



Again, this is just my personal opinion and while I wholeheartedly believe in it, I'm always up to debate the theory!

 

I'd be fine if she wasn't a Skywalker. But again, my only contention is how do you reconcile that with the heavy allusions that she is a Skywalker? We didn't need any context clues to speculate that her strength in the Force was a function of her lineage (grand daughter of Anakin). They provided it anyway, why?

One possible route (that has been suggested) is that she was a chosen one as well, who has only a mother and no father. It would explain why a LS is calling to her that belonged to Anakin because he was ostensibly born for the same task, to bring balance. But they didn't just emphasize that it was Anakin's LS, they also made the point of saying it was Luke's (who was not the chosen one and not born to bring balance).

Also we hear in the 2nd Teaser Luke describing people in his family being strong with the Force and saying (to whomever it is he is talking) that they have that power too. Why make reference to the family specifically? There were plenty of other notable force users who he could have invoked. You could say well it's people that Rey met, she met Leia, she meets Luke. Rey never meets Anakin though, so there are holes in even that approach.

Rey is definitely under the impression that she's waiting for her family to come back. I would just point out that it isn't necessarily fact that she knows who her family members are. The people she perceives as her family may in fact not be. And I think they use deliberately vague language to maximize the space they have to write. Family doesn't necessarily imply more than one person. If all you have is one sibling or one parent, that's your family; it doesn't have to be a group.

Still it'll be interesting to see what they reveal come December

 

People that sexually fantasize about Adam Driver or the brutal killer character that he plays aren't the best judges of where the story is going.

 

But they have great taste

 

As a community and fandom, we've debated and argued this for so long that by this point, I'm pretty much just waiting to see what The Last Jedi offers before I make any concrete statements. With that said, I agree that the likeliest outcome so far is for a Rey Random to emerge for the remainder of the Sequel Trilogy - mostly because as time went on, the theories started to get far too elaborate to justify certain things in her backstory. The truth is often much simpler than that - because at the end of the day, you've only got two (potentially two and a half) hours to tell your story. Given the fact that the focal point of that story is not the parentage of Rey, but rather the continued struggle between the light and the dark amidst a galactic conflict - you kinda have to be economic and considerate of other plotlines, lest you just get a convoluted, unevenly paced narrative.

Once the truth comes out, and Rey's parentage is revealed - I'm willing to bet that it's going to be rather quite simple.

 

Ultimately you might turn out to be right. And I wouldn't have a problem with that direction for the character (being the child of people we have not met before), but I would have a serious problem with the marketing strategy to imply and allude to the possibility of her being a Skywalker. We would've speculated fine on our own without the extra metadata.

Like if people want Snoke to be Plagueis (he isn't, but let's just walk this through) and he turns out to have no relation based on what the Episode says, no big deal. They never alluded to the possibility that they were, that was just fans speculating and theorizing. With Rey's lineage they have actively participated in the rumor mill (IMO) so I would be a little disappointed in that. But it doesn't harm her character not to be a Skywalker, it actually probably opens up new and unexplored story lines that don't pigeon hole the writers.

 

It's just a movie, Gary. It's not that deep.

 

Indeed, who she was doesn't thematically matter as much to the story as who she might become. I'd be a fool not to deny the Skywalker parallels, but even if she does ultimately end up as Luke's offspring, it's still probably going to be a simple explanation - something we've missed from our perspective as an audience, as opposed to the people holding all the (plot) cards.