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SPECULATION Is Luke Rey's Father? - The Evidence For and Against

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by master_shaitan, Feb 17, 2016.

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Is Rey the daughter of Luke Skywalker

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  3. Undecided

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  1. Lady Rey

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    So her expert pilot skills like Han, her womanly independence like Leia, her being Force sensitive like Luke, and her accent and mannerisms like Obi-Wan = Skywalker confirmed?
     
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    But at the moment they don’t sell it that way, at least not to make the big bug. So far they use it internally to have a name for the main line of products to keep a clear separation for the other line of products called the “A Star Wars Story” with different requirements for possibly slightly different audiences (age ratings etc).

    So if ‘Skywalker’ is a criteria for the success to that line of products, they have to put that claim on a movie poster and to the voice over text for trailers to make everybody aware.

    It would have helped with all the confused people that didn’t realized the difference between the 2 product lines and that are now finished with SW because in Rogue One "not even one of the old, beloved characters of the main line movies was seen" (from their perspective). Part of the crowd doesn’t get the differences right know, and mixes up the timeline.
     
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    Expert Pilot skils like Luke.

    Accents are gentic they are enviromental.

    So really - So her expert pilot skills like Luke, her womanly independence like Leia, her being Force sensitive like Luke, Her cloths like Luke, her speeder looks like Luke's, her being forced to accept her destiny and leave her home like Luke, her befriending a small droid who only beeps like Luke, her having to seek out a second mentor like Luke etc.... = Skywalker confirmed?
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    They don't use that term except in interviews, but they still sell those Episodes on the backs of Skywalkers.

    I agree they need to split the Episodes and Side Stories more clearly in their advertising - I also think not casting a girl who looked exactly like Rey in the lead would have helped.
     
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    No it doesn't. Rey embodies the OT cast, and Obi-Wan especially, who you left out, though mostly everyone can see it. TFA = the OT with many parallels.

    Also, the accent was required for Rey, so no. They had John drop his on purpose too.
     
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    Ok, so they wanted someone from Jakku to sound like that. Accents still aren't genetic.

    And ya - the accent isn't a link to Obi-wan, and Luke was a great pilot too, so that doesn't HAVE to be a link to Han.
     
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    So all the moments where she talked like Han, finished his sentences and they did the "motivator" line from ESB was all to tell us she's a Skywalker?
     
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    They wanted to watch The Empire Strikes Back because the characters were great and the first film was sensational. They went thinking that Luke's family was dead and Vader was an evil henchman. But alas, some people have got stuck on the whole Skywalker genetic thing. That's fine, I get that. It became a big part of the story of Darth Vader - his origins, his life and the family he created. Great news though! The Sequel Trilogy continues the adventures of ALL OF VADER'S OFFSPRING!

    Luke. Leia. And now his grandson Ben Solo!

    But what of those who us who are concerned about a rehash of the old story yet perhaps want the main character to be tied into this Skywalker saga? Don't worry - Rey won't be genetically a Skywalker but she becomes part of their story - she might even take the name as she hasn't got one herself! She can even help redeem Ben Solo and bring Vader's story to a fitting end with no chance of his dark legacy reappearing. We shall have...peace!
     
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    You mean the motivator line from ANH?
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    No its not a genetic thing - genetically Ben is part of the family. Its how you make products for people. You don't continue the story of a family without a member of that family, without that family name, IN THE STORY. That changes the story from the Skywalker Saga to the Solo Saga.
     
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    No it's with Han in ESB. It's meant to be a callback to that scene when they are running around, trying to escape.

    What I'm getting at is TFA's is a callback to the OT. Nothing is meant to say "this is Rey's heritage" so saying she looks like Luke is no different than saying she talks like Han. It's not proving anything. It's the fan's perspective, but it's not 100% fact or proof she is a Skywalker.
     
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    A) No products exist titled: The Skywalker Saga.
    B) This trilogy (and any that contains Vader's family and a story that directly relates to his legacy) is centred around the Skywalker family.
    C) Calling it "The Skywalker Saga" is an informal and simple way of describing the trilogies.
     
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    Luke has a similar line in ANH.......

    Rey is clearly meant to remind people of Luke - she looks like him, lives on a desert planet, has a similar relationship to a similar droid, can use the force etc... This is why most people think Rey being Lukes daughter is what will happen. Its not 100% fact, but its silly to say there are no hints.
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    A) Buts its how the people in charge refer to it - so what does that tell you about how they see the product moving forward?
    B) Never said anything about things haing to change for the ST to fit what they've said.
    C) Evidence needed.
     
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    Exactly, but the one she's meant to callback to is ESB, especially when she's ordering Finn around, like Han does with Chewie.

    Rey is the Luke Skywalker of the ST, but that doesn't mean she is a Skywalker. She will have similarities to Luke the most, but she shares many with the rest of the OT cast too.

    I mean if we're going to go there, then look at the poster. 2 Skywalkers covered in red, and her standing with a blue light above her, casting the red from her. She's their balance, not their blood.
     
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    Really? Abrams told you that did he? And what about all the stuff that clearly calls back to Luke? Naw we'll just forget that.

    Or shes the Skywalker that has things right while neither Luke or Kylo have figured it out.
     
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    In an interview. How do they market Star Wars? Well, they have marketed TFA and TLJ without a promise that this will be about the offspring of Luke Skywalker. They've centred the marketing on:

    Rey X
    Poe Dameron
    Finn
    Kylo Ren

    If they wanted it be about (or that it HAD TO be about) a leading character being a Skywalker then they would've made it clear she was one from the get go. They didn't. They left it open. If Rey isn't a Skywalker, KK calling it "The Skwalker Saga" in an interview is going to have zero impact on the audience.

    They will or won't like Rey as a character already. If she turns out to be random do you think less people will watch the film? No. That depends on one thing:

    If it is any good or not.
     
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    Hey there's no need to get smart with me. I'm trying to explain what I know/heard.
     
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    When you pass something off as "This is what it means" I'm going to ask how you know that. Also, you know Han never says "motivator" in ESB right? (as far as I can remember, seein the script)
    NT. MILLENNIUM FALCON - HOLD
    Han works furiously at some control panels while giving various orders
    to Chewie.

    HAN
    Horizontal boosters...!
    (Chewie barks)
    Alluvial dampers...! Well that's
    not it.
    (Chewie barks)
    Bring me the hydrospanners!

    Chewie hurries over to the pit and places the tools on the edge.

    HAN
    I don't know how we're going to
    get out of this one.

    Suddenly, a loud thump hits the side of the Falcon, causing it to lurch
    radically. Chewie barks. The tools fall into the pit on top of Han.

    HAN
    Oww! Chewie!

    More turbulence rocks the ship.

    HAN
    That was no laser blast! Something
    hit us.

    LEIA
    (over comlink)
    Han, get up here!
    THREEPIO
    Oh, where is Artoo when I need
    him?

    Han enters the hold area and kneels on the floor near the control box.

    THREEPIO
    Sir, I don't know where your ship
    learned to communicate, but it
    has the most peculiar dialect. I
    believe, sir, it says that the
    power coupling on the negative
    axis has been polarized. I'm
    afraid you'll have to replace it.

    HAN
    Well, of course I'll have to replace
    it.

    He hands a wire coil up to Chewie who is working near the ceiling.

    HAN
    Here! And Chewie...

    Chewie brings his head back through the trap door in the ceiling and
    whines. Han glances back at Threepio, then speaks quietly to Chewie so
    only he can hear.

    HAN
    (continuing)
    ... I think we'd better replace
    the negative power coupling.


    ........ so a ANH reference/call back?
     
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    The hyperdrive motivator? Yes it's mentioned in ESB. I just watched the movie. That whole scene with Han and Rey is a callback to this:

     
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    Around the Skywalkers a lot. ANd if they don't see that as important, why would Kennedy say it that way?

    If who is Rey is, who her family is, what that connection is isn't important, why create the mystery about it? Why would they have to let us know from the get go? TFA is about finding Luke, and once the entire ST is out, if she is his daughter.........

    yes, I think most people will disapointed if she isn't Lukes daughter.
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    So Rey is 3P0's daughter?
     
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    Nope! See? Not everything means something in TFA.
     
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    we don't have a thread for that
     
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