SPECULATION Is Luke Rey's Father? - The Evidence For and Against

That's excellent! Hard to say if they will make her a Skywalker or not, but the whole balance and loss of it, plus that poem and the poster, it does point to Rey as the one to fix things and stop the darkness from overtaking the light.

 

i believe that this poem is the new "prophecy" of this trilogy. now that the original prophecy regarding Anakin defeating the Sith has been accomplished they need something else to add some mysticism to the story.

my take on the poem is that Luke has already developed the "refined Jedi sight" to resolve the "gray," or in other words the ups and downs of life, particularly for those with a sensitivity to the Force as these swings could be much larger and more dangerous.

Luke, as a true Jedi master, understands that everyone has a good and bad within them and tried to teach this to Ben.

where Luke can see the balance and focuses on the light, Ben sees the balance and focuses on the dark. or perhaps, Luke focuses on fighting the dark while Ben focuses on fighting the light.

either way, Luke and Ben both understand something about the way the Force balances, but each have their own take. Luke will likely prove to be the correct one, but it will take Rey to get him back into action.

Rey will be the conduit for showing both Skywalkers the "right" way to balance the Force and themselves (i assume Rey is not a Skywalker here).

 

I am somewhat on the same page as you. When people heard Luke thought Ben was the chosen one, they assumed it was related to Anakin, but the journal could easily be talking about Luke, Rey and Ben.

That's exactly what the poster looks like.

 

You know, I've read this quote over and over again, and a new possibility opens itself up to conversation almost every time, such as it being about the rise of the Republic, it's fall into the Empire and then the destruction of the Empire.

For now, though, I'm going to explore the possibility that "day", "night" and "the light" are actually referring to three characters, being Luke, Ben/Kylo and Rey, and my suggestion is pretty simple: Luke was born first, followed by Ben, with the period between Ben's birth and Rey's awakening being "the darkness", with "the difference" being in reference to their differing views of the Force, which will become the same (i.e. there should be balance) through the "resolving of gray", perhaps with the "gray" referring to their solution to the galaxy's conflicts. In those case, I'm going to take "through refined Jedi sight" as them all coming to the same perspective through their Jedi teachings, however different that they may be for each character.

 

As I said above, I was merely entertaining the thought, and I do absolutely (I'm not a Sith guys) believe in and agree with everything you said, which was very eloquently put @master_shaitan

To further your point, this puts Rey in a position nearly identical to both Anakin in the PT and Luke in the OT in terms of achieving peace and balance, with the former believed to be the Chosen One - and therefore believed to bring about the resolution balance to the Force - but failed until, ultimately, given the chance later in life to right his wrongs, whereas Luke achieved peace and balance by sparing Vader's life and throwing down his weapon, proclaiming that he is a Jedi like his father before him.

I think that balance, ultimately, is not something that can be achieved and sustained - the Force fluctuates between light and dark - but rather is based on particular moments where the decisions you make do, for a very brief moment, bring balance to the Force, as both Anakin and Luke succeeding in doing themselves at the end of ROTJ.

The potential is certainly there for Rey to bring balance to Kylo and Luke, and she is absolutely in the position to bring balance to them, but they themselves could bring - or tarnish - further balance depending on the actions and decisions that they go on to make.

 

I was giving you another Great post until... You know

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I'll do anyway.

 

I think there are a ton of interpretations of the poem.

It's essentially describing Yin/Yang, and that's a concept that's been in Star Wars for a long time, in various forms. Now, with this more grey approach to the force that Disney is trying, the can really play with this idea.

 

Hello guys. After a long [long] time I finally finished this thread. I'm still unsure as who Rey is related to, but given Rian's statements I believe Rey Random whose parents were killed by Luke is the most "unexpected but right" response. My favorite answer still Rey as Luke's daughter, but I dont believe anymore that this will be the case.

 

meaning it would be unexpected........

 

I'm saying it right now. Rey's parents are the last things people should be thinking about. When you walk out of the theaters Rey's parents will be the furthest thing from your mind. I believe as JJ said. They weren't in TFA.

 

I've talked about this before, but it's excellent word-of-mouth promotion that obviously can't conclude in some "No, I am your father" twist simply because they've leaned into the fact that her parents will be revealed in TLJ, etc.

The surprises and twists, I assume, lie elsewhere. Nobody bigs up something if it's supposed to be a twist.

 

Only a couple of months guys and we’ll finally know the truth! Giving in my final guesses before all hell breaks lose :lol:


I still think Rey’s a Skywalker. I know it’s ‘obvious’ and all that, but maybe that’s the point? A ‘twist’ works because no one knows its coming. For 2 years people have been talking about who her parents are: Skywalker, Random, Kenobi, etc. Almost all possible candidates have been dissected and discussed. We’re all expecting a twist but why are we so focused on it being linked to a parental reveal? A parental twist would not surprise anybody.

Also, hasn’t Daisy implied that she thought some things were pretty obvious by the end of the film? Correct me if I’m wrong but when she was asked if we’ll know who she is and who her parents are in the Last Jedi, she said:

“It’s very interesting, because I didn’t know – Mark was telling me that when Darth Vader said “I’m your father” people still didn’t believe it, they didn’t believe it was true. It was interesting because at the end of TFA I though everyone was going to be like, “oh cool, that’s been answered” but it hasn’t. And I think that even though a lot of questions are answered in the Last Jedi, I think it’s still that thing of discovery.”

If Rey is a random and her parents were dark users and/or Luke’s padawans, would the audience, at the end of TFA really go, “oh cool, that’s been answered”? I don’t think so.

A theory:

What if Rey is not really her name? IIRC that helmet she wears in her ATAT home belongs to someone named Raeh. What are the chances she just named herself? What if Luke is not Rey’s father but is Kira’s? (assuming that’s her real name) Rey is a random but Kira is a Skywalker.


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One does not necessarily exclude the other. She met Finn and he was the first person who ever came back for her. Han grew close to her and she even viewed him as a father figure. Rey could be Luke's daughter but that won't diminish whatever family she's already made. Heck, from what we're reading about Luke and Rey's first interactions, Luke is being a scrooge to her. He might be her father but he might not be what she expected and wanted him to be. (Ben and Han parallel?)

Rey: "I know all about waiting. For my family. They'll be back, one day."
Maz: "Whomever you're waiting for on Jakku... they're never coming back... But... there's someone who still could."
Kylo: "...And Han Solo... You feel like he's the father you never had."

We know that Rey is waiting for her family (and she probably thinks they're the ones who left her behind) but we're still not sure who abandoned her. She really has no memory of them and as Kylo even says, Rey never had and never knew who her father is. I took it as Maz saying that whoever left her on Jakku, is not coming back. Couple that with her saying that the Skywalker saber is now calling to Rey... I think it paints a pretty concrete picture.

 

Woah woah woah. I never said he's a bad father. Was Han a bad father to Kylo? NO. All I said is that he might not be what Rey expected him to be. Circumstances also play a part.

1. She specifically says: "That lightsaber was Luke's. And his father's before him. And now, it calls to you." How more familial can it get? When she could've stated it as "That lightsaber was Luke's and Anakin's before him. And now, it calls to you."

2. She says that whomever she's waiting for in Jakku is never coming back. What I said up thread, she might think the ones who left her is her family. Those people are not coming back.

Why is it the will of the force? Why is she so important in bringing Luke home? More so than his sister?