SPECULATION Is Luke Rey's Father? - The Evidence For and Against

Rey, while wanting her family, clearly isn't the right mind set at that moment to hear and accept those things.

And what did Maz do - try to see Rey to Luke. Maybe Maz simply didn't see it as her place to tell Rey but her fathers place.

 

Update: J.J. Abrams said a few months ago that Rey's parents are NOT in the Force Awakens. That means that Luke is NOT Rey's father, and Leia and Han are NOT Rey's parents either.

 

I'm gonna be totally honest, I tend to take a director's word (especially a director like Abrams) with a grain of salt.

He may be correct, but you also have to realize that he's trying to maintain his "mystery box", too. It's a lame tactic, but sometimes storytellers straight up lie about things like this.

 

In the world of instant gratification, it's needed to keep people from figuring out the story.
With how many sites, forums, discussions happen over it, it's bound to be that someone has already guessed the story.
You have to lie to keep it from potentially spreading

 

Yeah, that's fair. There are millions of fans, each with their own theories. We've seen how fan speculation has spoiled surprises in shows like Westworld and even Game of Thrones.

I think that even so, while it's nice to be surprised, there is a bit of a meta-disappointment in "Well, I mean we couldn't have known this because they said it wasn't going to happen" thing that occurs when creators openly deny an element that ends up panning out, but I guess when fans are speculating and getting close to the mark, that's a losing battle no matter how you look at it, outside of the viral advertising of course.

 

UPDATE: This is interpreted wrong.

The thing that he said was actually that 'who are my parents?' was something Rey thinks about too.

A clarification later from him said that he didn't mean that they didn't already exist, just that Rey didn't discover who they are in Episode VII (exclusively referring to Episode VII is a common resistance technique to questions and interrogation by Abrams and the cast.) His stated ethos is about 'possibility' and any sort of debunking interpretations contradict his own ethos.

J. J. Abrams: “[Who are Rey’s parents?] Get out! … Get out! … Rey’s parents are not in Episode VII. So I can’t possibly – in this moment – tell you who they are. But I will say, that it is… this is all I will say: it is something that Rey thinks about, too.” (April 15, 2016) “What I meant was that she doesn’t discover them in Episode VII. Not that they may not already be in her world.” (April 15, 2016)

He's just trying to be slippery with semantics. Because...

• “I know quite a bit [about Rey’s lineage].” “Obviously it’s not for me to talk about in this moment because this is Rian’s story to continue now. The last thing I’m going to do is reveal something that he would be upset about. I want to make sure that Rian gets the courtesy that he showed me.”
• “[It’s] not [hard] for me [to keep Rey’s identity a secret]!”

J. J. Abrams on the structure of the original trilogy:

• "What was incredible about Star Wars (1977), among other things, was that in that first movie Vader could’ve been his father, but he wasn’t, you know. Leia could’ve been his sister, but she wasn’t."
• "In that first [Star Wars (1977)] movie, Luke wasn’t necessarily the son of Vader, he wasn’t necessarily the brother of Leia, but it was all possible."
• "You know, Star Wars (1977) didn’t say that Luke was the son of Vader. Star Wars didn’t say that Leia was the sister of Luke."
• "You don’t know so much in that [first Star Wars (1977)] movie, like what the Empire wants or the possibility that Darth Vader is Luke’s father, or that Leia is Luke’s sister. All these things exist, but none are explicit."
• "You don’t know that Vader is Luke’s father, Leia is his sister – but the possibility is all there [in Star Wars (1977)]."
• "You don’t really understand what it would be like for Luke to become a Jedi, let alone who his father was [in Star Wars (1977)]."
• "That's what’s so amazing about Star Wars (1977), too. The possibilities were so enormous. At the end of Star Wars, you didn’t know who was related to whom, but anything was possible."
• "The fact that in ‘Star Wars (1977)’, you know, you kind of forget when you look at all the movies and you think ‘I am your father’ and you think that Luke and Leia are brother and sister, but the truth is, when you watch the first movie, you don’t know who Luke’s dad is and you don’t know that Leia’s his sister. It’s all potential. It’s all possibility."
• "[What we wanted was] to give people that sense of possibility and magic we all felt when we first saw the original Star Wars (1977) [with The Force Awakens]."
• "[The Force Awakens] was to give people that sense of possibility and magic that we all felt when we first saw the original ‘Star Wars' (1977)."
• "Working on The Force Awakens, we’ve had to consider [the original trilogy] in a slightly different context. [...] If ‘I am your father’ had been in the first [Star Wars (1977)] film, I don’t know if it would have had the resonance. I actually don’t know if it would have worked."

 

and then he walked those comments back.
http://collider.com/star-wars-reys-parents-jj-abrams/

“What I meant was that she doesn’t discover them in Episode VII. Not that they may not already be in her world,”

 

He only said that, because the crowd became disappointed. It was never his intention in my opinion to make Rey's background the highlight of the film. Now if people took it that way that's on them.

 

And she didn't

She doesn't want her going back to Jakku and wasting her life. So she closes that door while pushing her to the person who should tell her the truth.

Maz is pretty wise.

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citation needed.

 

Luke's voiceover in the first teaser for FA implied that Rey was a Skywalker. It may have been deliberately misleading, but it was definitely not accidental.

 

If Rey is a Skywalker, Maz probably knows Luke is never going back. Luke is on Ach-To. He's not leaving. If everyone knows Luke is AWOL, Maz knows too.
Luke isn't going to Jakku. She's not lying or wrong if she says that, while still knowing Luke is her family.

 

She never says they are dead. Just they are never coming back.
Perhaps they are dead.
Perhaps they just abandoned her.

 

No, that's your specific interpretation of it. It never implies to me personally that they are dead, just that they are never coming to Jakku.

 

Maz doesn't want Rey running back to Jakku to wait for a family that Maz knows isn't coming. So what else would she tell her to keep her from doing that?

Prove she didn't tell Han.

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Please show me the scene were Maz says your family is dead.

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1) Maz doesn't imply this. She says they aren't coming back, then instantly gives Rey hope by saying -
But... there's someone who still could -
2) She doesn't feel its her place to tell Rey about her family.
3) Prove she didn't.

Because you're filling gaps with your own assumptions.

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Rey isn't a child.

because she knows Luke is never going to go back to Jakku?