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SPECULATION Is Luke Rey's Father? - The Evidence For and Against

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by master_shaitan, Feb 17, 2016.

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Is Rey the daughter of Luke Skywalker

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  3. Undecided

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  1. Canadian Ronin

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    Ive never wanted Rey Solo more.
     
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    Not reading the word "obvious" anywhere. I do however see her telling us that she thought TFA explained quite a bit about her past: likely that her parents are never coming back and that it was about making a new family (she also once said that she and Finn found their family, as in made a new one, so...).

    Thanks for proving me right again though, mr friendly.
     
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    I realize you think you're being really smart and throwing out gotcha's - but you're just making a fool of yourself.
     
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    Got that "obvious" quote yet, Mr T?
     
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    I want an original story. Let's put it this way. Is your life very similar to your parents? My guess is no. You guys would have similar paths and lessons, but the content is quite different.. The Skywalker Saga would be the same.

    I want to connect to the characters and what better way then having some family drama to make them feel human?? The biggest problem with the prequels is you can't relate to the Jedi Order.. You can't relate to the Sith ( let's hope not). Here, we can relate to why Leia and Han are hurt and separated because of their son.. You can relate to why Luke ran away.. And we will relate to Rey's conflict she has with her family and why she was abandoned or feels she was. :)
     
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    We can relate to common sense and right and wrong. There were many characters in many movies you liked and you didn't know their parents. Did you know Sarah Connor's parents in Terminator? It's what you stand for that makes you or anyone interesting. Paris Hilton is blood to the Hilton family. Are you any more interested in her because of her last name?
     
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    Anyway who doesn't say that Rey is a Skywalker will find me........and the Spanish Inquisition in his or her doorstep. As ordered by our glorious emperor we will "burn these ideas away" (pwned)
     
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    Out of all the obvious moments in the Force Awakens that Rey is Luke's daughter, BY FAR the most obvious would be Maz offering Rey (A stranger) the Skywalker light saber (Now an Heirloom) RIGHT AFTER she asks Han 'Who's the girl' and then cuts. Really guys??! Why else would she do that??! At this point Maz can only sense that the forceis strong in her.. that doesn't mean the Skywalker lightsaber just calls to her and her only as she's granted images of Skywalker history at the touch.

    So, Let's ignore the fact that the Skywalker Lightsaber calls to HER and HER ONLY (Even over Ben Solo) every time it's near her??

    Let's focus on Luke for a moment. I highly doubt he looks so crushed just because his nephew turned against him and destroyed his temple.. Yes, he would be very upset and regretful, but I doubt the optimistic Luke Skywalker would run and hide because of that. He'd go to face Ben even if it meant death. No, from the look of it he's lost something very personal..something more terrifying happened to him. He lost his wife and child.
    --- Double Post Merged, Nov 17, 2017, Original Post Date: Nov 17, 2017 ---
    With all do respect, that's far from my point. buddy. haha
     
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    Rey, left on Jakku at a young age (actress was about 7 - 8 years old). Yet thinks Luke Skywalker is a myth. When i was 8, i knew what my parents were called, looked like and job they did. Rey should know that Luke Skywalker, the Jedi is her father and that Han and Leia are her Uncle and aunt. Yet Han, Luke and the Millenium Falcon are all legends/myths to her.
     
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    Agreed and even a 5 year old would have a hard job forgetting Chewbacca
     
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    That's partially the reason Luke was scaled back in TFA from Michael Arndt's script or whatever he had written. It had too much Luke and would have taken away from Rey or anyone else for that matter.
     
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    To play devil’s advocate, it’s possible that whatever split her from her parents (Luke, Han and Leia, whoever) was a great stressor and was very traumatic for her.

    The mind has ways of blocking things like these out, and being on a desert planet for likely over a decade doesn’t exactly help Rey clear up her past, nor does she have anyone to ask about it.

    For all we know, she thought she was born and ditched on Jakku before her Force vision, and she had projected that her parents left her there for a reason herself.
     
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    Well let's think about this for a moment. Snoke was most likely the one who taught Ben these cerebral force powers he carries (Snoke has Rey bent back in stasis). My guess is Snoke is a master of cerebral force powers and can wipe minds as well or even worse manipulate memories to his advantage. Maybe Ben has jaded memories of his parents and past which is what really turned him? Either way its possible for Rey to have had her mind wiped
     
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    Irony. The trailers are playing like she isnt his daughter. That most recent trailer made it clear Luke knows her. He was just trying to see if she knows.

    "What do you see".

    "You've been here before" "only in my dreams"

    "Who are you".

    He knows. He knows. He's testing her
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    Or she was mind wiped.

    She has to be related. Her force powers, the similarities, otherwise, its just disney fan fic. Fake Star Wars.
     
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    Don't forget mind wiping/manipulation of Leia, Han and Chewbacca. Which just kinda proves my point that Rey Skywalker is most likely going to be a convoluted and uninspiring mess. There is also the explanation of why Snoke mind wiped Rey, instead of just taking her and turning her to the dark side, or killing her.

    If Rey was left on Jakku by Luke or by orders of Luke = this would essentially be destroying the good qualities of Luke that we saw in the OT.
    If Rey was kidnapped = If you are going to kidnap the child of the strongest jedi around, why would you just leave her on some random planet.
    Kylo rescuing her = Kylo was curious about the girl, but doesn't recognise her as his cousin. I reckon he would have recognised the cousin that he left on Jakku (especially considering the same hairstyle).
     
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    Maybe because if she is and if it was made clear them the movie would have been about "How / Why she was left/lost". Meaning it would have benn still a movie about the OT big 3 instead of a movie about her journey, that of Finn, etc...
    If that was the case, perhaps, something like this could have been the reason.
     
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    There are only two scenarios that will really bother me as far as Rey’s past/parentage goes and that is her being a clone or her being mind wiped. I think story wise Rey being a new unrelated character is best. My fanboy side would love for her to be a Kenobi. If she is a Skywalker that is ok by me. If the story is good I’ll be accepting of most scenarios. However, the problem I see with most Rey Skywalker fans/proponents is that they are too invested in it. They let their inner fanboy/girl dictate their reasoning and rationales.
     
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    How about her being a re-incarnated Anakin/ chosen one? does anyone have strong feelings about this?
     
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    Someone actually gave this post a bright red Dislike. Seriously. That's nuts.

    It is my observation that most of the people who don't want Rey to be a Skywalker are Reylo shippers and they can get quite passionate about the whole subject. Before TFA came out people all across social media and the internet in general were pretty much adamant that Rey had to be either Luke or Han's daughter. Now, suddenly, so many don't want that to be the case.
     
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    The main reason I'm not a fan of her being a Skywalker at this point is that from a narrative point of view, the idea that its an important reveal, and a driving point to her story in TFA just seems so lazy. I mean she carries the Skywalker saber, she is the central force user....its kinda a bit on the nose as a reveal, and yet TFA built up a level of desire on Rey's part to uncover that mystery of where her family are. Thats where this doesn't function for me, because TFA asks you to speculate about her origins, even to the point that when Maz asks Han 'So, who's the girl' we cut away before he can answer. So its like, the story is asking us to care, asking us to speculate and wonder about her origins, yet we all assumed probably that she would in fact be a Skywalker....so if she is one, then why not just establish that? its not a good twist, and so why play it like one?

    if she is a Skywalker and we all assumed she would be...then can you really play that as a 'twist' or 'reveal?' if it is the case that she is Luke's daughter then as an audience the fans are kind of in a position of dramatic irony, but that only works if the creator of the work intends for it to be dramatic irony.

    The only way the whole 'who are Rey's parents' thing can resonate with me is if it matters to her. We don't know who her family are and neither does she, but as a fanbase lots of people 'want' stuff for her. so I think that's the only angle that would feel like it made sense to me would be if she 'wanted' to be a Skywalker, like when she meets Luke if she is suspicious that perhaps he is her father, as we the audience will likely be. Then it works because we will be travelling the same emotional arc as Rey....
     
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