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SPECULATION Is Luke Rey's Father? - The Evidence For and Against

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by master_shaitan, Feb 17, 2016.

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Is Rey the daughter of Luke Skywalker

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  2. No

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    You know, I wouldn't care so much if Rey was a random person if everyone hadn't hyped her up to be someone important. From the very beginning—before The Force Awakens was even released—they emphasized that Rey's parentage was a secret for a reason. If she ends up being a random person, I'm going to be a little pissed, just because we all wasted our time focusing on who she might be when it doesn't even matter.
     
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    After long hoping that Rey was a Kenobi (however unlikely it was) yet knowing she was more likely to be a Skywalker, I've come to the conclusion or rather finally been beaten into submission that she is actually *dramatic pause* neither :confused:. My reasons why I'll list below.

    1. The simplest answer - Rey Skywalker is just too obvious. It would get more of an eyeroll from the GA than an excited gasp.
    2. Both Kenobi and Skywalker involve far too much explanation. The 'Where's, why's and how's' would dominate the narrative rather than the results
    3. There's no real need for it, to what purpose does Rey being a Skywalker etc actually serve? We know strength in the force doesn't necessarily tie in with parentage or blood (Not every powerful Jedi had Darth Vader for a father, who don't forget got his ass kicked by OB1)
    4. Rey's desire for knowing her place in the world/finding a family is far too easily solved if Luke turns round saying 'come to daddy, sweetheart' (that sounds a bit wrong but nvm lol). It completes her journey almost, I can't see it being that easy.
    5. The moral message I think would be week/wrong if she is related. If she turns out to be Luke's daughter and her life turns out great then what do we learn as an audience? Everything will be OK if you have a powerful family? Not very Disney or LFL for that matter. I think its more likely that Rey's (blood) family are gone and she finds herself and her new family amongst her friends. If she stayed on Jakku like she originally wished she would have lived a life of insignificance and ignorance, by leaving, being brave and taking a risk she may not have got the family she originally wanted but she ends up getting the family she deserves.
    6. Also i think her relationships with the other characters will be far more tangible if she isn't related to any of them. Plus the amount of mommy, daddy issues that would need to be sorted out would be crazy. It'd end up being 'Jeremy Kyle Strikes Back' not the TLJ.
    7. And finally... If she is a Skywalker or a Kenobi (or god forbid - a solo :eek:) she ends up a continuation of their story. If she is Rey Random, she writes her own and subsequently carves out her own niche in SW lore.
    Whew! That took longer than expected and tbf I could have wrote more, a lot more. So that's me now firmly 'off the fence' and I'm backing Rey Random. To me personally I think it tells the most compelling story but let's see what happens in 20ish days. :D
     
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    welcome into the fold, @TheGreyandTheRed. : D
     
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    Why, thank you :cool:.

    Do I get a badge or something lol? Or should I put a board up outside the house announcing my allegiance? :p
     
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    That'll do :cool:

    Watch my car get keyed by a Rey Soloist :mad:
     
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    Very well stated
     
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    TFA has a plot similar to ANH. Lucasfilm fired Lord and Miller for trying something different with the Han Solo movie. So why do people think it's likely that Lucasfilm will be innovative and not do the obvious?
    Luke may not survive the trilogy, and Rey may then have to shoulder the burden of training a new generation of Jedi by herself, perhaps facing more cases of students turning to the dark side and turning against her. If Rey is a Solo, then her father had already died, her mother likely would be next, and her brother may not survive the trilogy. The message could be that being a Solo/Skywalker is more of a curse than a blessing - nevertheless one should try to do the right thing despite tragic losses and a difficult journey.
     
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    Rogue one, the solo movie and the new trilogy tell me that they are trying something different. Plus the execs and writers knew they would get away with the nostalgia in TFA however they aren't daft enough to think they can continue that into TLJ.

    That would be outright depressing. I'm not saying it's not possible but that sounds more M Night Shyamalan than SW.
     
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    In interviews with the actors and other people in the know it sounds like Rian has done something different and there has been no trouble with it. Rian starting a new trilogy is proof TPTB love TLJ.

    If the rumors are true, Lord and Miller were not fired for trying something different, they were fired from veering off script too much. One that apparently was thought to be very good at Lucasfilm. There are other rumors that have made it sound like Lord and Miller were almost disrespecting the brand

    Rian has always been very reverent towards the brand and that is the difference. If you respect it and make a quality product, Lucasfilm does not mind different and that is what it sounds like we are getting with TLJ.
     
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    We’re three weeks away now, so it might be a good time to start gauging opinions.

    Those who think Rey won’t be the daughter of Luke Skywalker: what will your reaction be if she is revealed to be Luke’s daughter?

    In a similar vein, to those who think Rey will be the daughter of Luke Skywalker: what will your reaction be if she is revealed to not be Luke’s daughter?
     
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    For heaven’s sake, it is the Skywalker saga. that means it is about Rey and therefore she is a skywalker

    Luke will not know he had a daughter, she will go off to fight Snoke and Ren. When he learns who she is, he will come after her and end up dying saving her.

    Feel free to come after me if I am wrong next month ;)
     
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    If she is revealed to be a Skywalker, i will be disappointed. I won't hate it (unless the explanation is awful), but i highly doubt that a compelling Rey skwalker story can be told.
     
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    I will be dissappointed if she is anything but a Skywalker.
     
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    pfff don't be. I want her to be a skywalker too but I'm open to anything else. If its a good movie, who cares.
     
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    While I prefer random, I’m perfectly cool with her being a Skywalker. I do feel haveing followed this thread since it inception that the pro Rey Skywalker crowd are going to be more upset if it does not turn out their way than the pro Rey Random crowd
     
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    I over analyzed this topic for the past two years, I am to the point "who cares" as to who she is related to. I just want TLJ to give her good character development. I don't want her to be romantically involved with Kylo Ren. She can have a romance with Finn, if she is going to have any romance. Kylo is too messed up for Rey. Plus it sends a bad message to little girls. The impression I get from the trailers is that she is not Luke's daughter. My guess is that Rey is not related to anybody we know. Before TFA came out, I thought she was the daughter to Han and Leia.
     
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    I’m on a similar page, and have been for the last few weeks.

    Whilst I think that the little evidence that we have regarding her parents points mostly to her being a Skywalker (my personal preference for the sake of cohesion, as I stated before TFA’s release), I’m cool with anything: even Rey Kenobi (and you guys know how much I’m not a fan of it).

    All it has to do to make me content is reveal her parents, and use this reveal (twist or not, but I think a twist here was thrown out long ago) as a catalyst for Rey’s actions in this film and the next.

    Luke reacted pretty well after finding out that his father was Vader, but that’s probably because he’d lived with his aunt and uncle for so long on Tatooine, as well as roughly three years with a proxy family of Han, Leia, Chewie, R2 and C-3PO. Rey got ditched as a child and was left to her own devices, scavenging to survive. I think her reaction has got to be very different to Luke’s because of this, and if Luke is her father, I expect to see some outrage.

    I trust Rian Johnson, and I’ll go into this film with open arms regarding Rey’s parents. I just hope that the storytelling opportunities such a reveal presents aren’t wasted, and I have to worry about how those who are fixed on a certain name for Rey are going to react.
     
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    I don't really care as long as it's a good story. What ever the answer is I'm sure that's how Lucasfilm/story group/Rian Johnson attacked this story. There wasn't a mandate.

    To be fair there's no evidence pointing in any direction. TFA is intentionally vague. Everything else is just speculation.
     
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    Well said.
    I can see Rey being someone not related to anyone, if only for the writers to avoid writing themselves into a unexplainable corner.
    Perhaps the question isn't where does she come from, but rather where is she going?

    With the whole Bendu/ one in the middle stuff in Rebels and such, I'm still kinda thinking perhaps this trilogy is going to end with Luke, Rey and Ben being the new Mortis trio. Rey and Ben being both on one side of the scale, with Luke keeping the balance.
     
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