SPECULATION Is Luke Rey's Father? - The Evidence For and Against

That's exactly the reason for me to think that even though sure Rey's arc parallels that of Luke in ANH, but the better term would be "mirror".
In the sense that they look alike at first sight, but the more you look close, the more you pay attention to the details, the more they are specular.
Details are reversed as they are in an actual mirror.

Luke is been watched over by Obi Wan and he lived with his family.
Rey was not. She was all alone.

Luke "knows" who his father is.
Rey doesn't.

Luke suggestes his uncle to but R2.
Rey refuses to sell BB8 to Unkar.

Luke is forced to go after R2 who has escaped.
Rey is forced to accept BB8 company, because he doesn't want to leave

Luke wants to leave Tatooine but his family doesn't let him to go.
Rey wants to stay on Jakku because she is waiting for her family to come back.

Luke looses the fight with the sandpeople.
Rey wins the fight with those guys at the Niina outpost

When his family is killed, Luke says "there's nothing more for me here" and -> he acpts the call
When Rey admits to Maz that her family is never coming back - > she refuses the call.

Luke's refusal to the call of destiny lasts 3 scenes.
Rey's refusal to the call of destiny lasts almost all the movie.

Luke accept the lightsaber immidiatly.
Rey doesn't.

In the hut scene, after Ben tells Luke who he really is, Luke refuses to help Ben to help Leia and R2.
In the Maz castle scene, after Finn tells Rey who he really is, she tries to convince Finn to help her and BB8.

Luke frees a prisoner (Leia, and that's their first meeting)
Rey is taken prisoner (by Kylo, and that's their first meeting)

Luke - in the finale - will use the force during a space battle, but before that, you've already understoond he's gifted
with the force because of the training with the lightsaber aboard the MF
Rey - in the finale - will use the force in a lightsaber duel, b
before that her strength abilities have been shown with her flying the falcon
with the mind trick etc ...

And I can go on...

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I've forgot what really matters.
To me this is only how the plot has been build up.
Rey is the heroine as Luke was.
And their are hero's journeys. But you tell a story that "looks" like the other even if details are switched.

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I've forgot what really matters.
To me this is only how the plot has been build up.
Rey is the heroine as Luke was.
And their are hero's journeys. But you tell a story that "looks" like the other even if details are switched.

 

It's not like the ST isn't retelling stories from the OT as it is..... Besides, they've already made the Ben Solo character, which is basically a privileged version of Anakin Skywalker.

And I don't agree about that last part of Vader. The prequels established that the Force exists in thousands upon thousands of Jedi. And in Rogue One we saw that an "ordinary citizen" like Chirrut Imwe was able to be guided by the Force.

 

I wish I could remember where I heard it but I remember in some type of audio interview after TFA came out JJ said that with Rey they a young girl who came from nowhere to become a Force user. I know I’m not making it up because I’m the same interview he talked about Kasdan coming up with Finn being a stormtrooper. If what I remember is correct then it would seem to make Rey Skywalker or Solo not very likely

 

There's a difference between having it established in background characters and as legend and having it established via a protagonist character.

 

So so aweful.

 

Here's my theory: Rey is a random...intentional...Skywalker. I don't come to this thread much..not sure if I've posted here before so forgive me if someone else has floated this idea.

What triggered it was Daisy Ridley saying she felt it was fairly obvious from TFA who her family was. So I watched it again and it seemed like they were placing a neon sign to the audience she was connected to the Skywalkers. Except no one knows Rey and we already know Luke has never seen her before so how can she be his relative? Plus there is no way they would make it that straightforward or obvious there must be a twist to Reys lineage.

The earliest draft of TFA (the one in all the leaks) had the opening as Luke's severed hand tumbling through space. JJ Abrams is a talented writer but there are few coincidences in his "mystery box" nor do I believe it is a coincidence it was cut from the film.

The details will be interesting and possibly not wholly explained in TLJ I think Rey was made by somebody using DNA from Lukes severed hand. Effectively making her his daughter, but random...intentionally. I don't know if Snoke did it or someone else. But it explains why Luke does not know her, how and why her story parallels his and if you think about it why the lightsaber is calling to her she is literally a product of the hand that last held it...I think maybe it was an offshoot of the child soldier program that was not approved by the FO and when Snoke or maybe Hux found out whoever was doing it dropped Rey off on Jakku.

• No idea who her mother is
• No idea who did this
• No idea if she needs a mother and if its not possible to make female clone making her actually Luke just a girl version
• No idea if she does have a mother will it be explained

But I do think that the original EU/Legends there were many stories where they were obsessed with cloning Vader since they are poaching and tweaking EU stories why not clone Luke instead?

Anyway that's my theory we'll see in less than a month...

 

Obi-Wan, Yoda and Ahsoka are hardly just background characters, and they have nothing to do with the Skywalker gene. Then again, the saga films are about the Skywalkers, which is something Kathleen Kennedy has confirmed.

Rian's trilogy is undoubtedly going to introduce new Jedi and Sith protagonists that have nothing to do with the Skywalkers.

 

so instead of Luuke we get Rey? i guess the "family" that dropped her off are from Kamino?

the cloning element of the EU was one thing i always thought was naff. i could get behind Thrawn and the Yuuzhan Vong, but Luuke and that whole whole thing was too much for me...

 

I would pay good money to see Lama Su drop a young Rey off on Jakku, before hitting his head upon re-entering his ship

 

The trolls would have a field day. I can imagine it now. Mary Rey Su...

 

Spoiler: Luke's first line

Luke's first line to Rey is : Who are you ?

Doesn't sound good for Daddy or Uncle Luke.

 

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I personally would love for Rey to be a Skywalker, and also disagree that be being one would discredit her in someway. However, discounting misogyny because "were all born from women anyway" is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. Thats been true for all of human history. However, that hasnt stopped women from being treated like property for most of that time, and heck in some parts of the world to this very day.

 

Damn straight. You worded it so much better than I did.

 

That's a pretty bold statement, saying that I discount misogyny which is something I most definitely do not do. I think you read what you wanted to read in my post. Read it again.
"Nobody is discrediting her story just because she's a female character (some might, but they're not as many as people would like to believe). Every child is still born from a FEMALE, so who the heck cares."
Now where did I discount misogyny? My post specifically mentioned that there are people who discredit her character just because of her gender.

The only reason I wrote "Born from a female" was because someone said that being a man's daughter or son puts too much focus on the father.

 

here's something for you to all chew on: Daisy Ridley in Mexico: https://www.pscp.tv/w/1eaJbqLRgnYGX

it's about 35 minutes (with Johnson and Hamill as well), but worth a serious careful listen.

edit: if you don't have time, at least listen from about 27:30.

 

Thats really interesting but there is very very little info there. They could give most politicians a run for there money in regards to 'never giving a straight answer' lol

 

well she talks a lot about things they've been saying over and over in terms of theme.
which people selectively seem to ignore over and over ~ hahahaha

 

Yep

The ol' 'if it doesn't fit my theory It can't be true' crowd lol

 

Is the video region-locked? It doesn't seem to load for me.