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SPECULATION Lor San Tekka (Max Von Sydow's Character).

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    If that were the case, that Star Destroyer was in the dirt 10 years before ROTJ. The poster also admits that it likely isn't true. I'm going with this happening after the death of the Emperor and Vader...

    Yeah, ok...I'll go with you on that! :)
     
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    Yeah its confirmed vie DICE that it takes place 1 year after Endor, so maybe its an error because he is only repeating what he heard or remembers.
     
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    Ok but after Yavin the rebels got hunted and spread and still they managed to build a base. But seriously its not that important if there was a base or just some ground battles gooing on and I seriously don´t want to hear a fund raising debate ever, we already had trade negotiations. maybe thats to much unimportant backround we really dont need to see in a movie.

    sorry doublepost
     
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    From that Reddit post: "Jakku was a wasteland with no population/settlements until around 40 years ago when the star destroyers we see in the trailer crash landed after a nearby space battle. The surviving crew became deserted and set up a colony. The crew were the first settlers on the planet. The battle of Endor took place around the same time as the 'battle of Jakku.'"

    Okay, there are all kinds of problems with this, including the timeline, but some just as I first mentioned. If this was the original rumor, the presence of AT-ATs on Jakku completely refutes it. (Granted, Reddit is not exactly the most reputable source.)
     
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    And the poster admits at the bottom of the dump that "It's probably not true, but enjoy."
     
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    ALSO keep in mind this: In the trailer we see the Star Destroyer plowed into the dirt, BUT THEN we see the MF flying into the engine nozzle.....of a SUPER Star Destroyer. Anyone else see this?
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    Very true. Everyone is probably assuming it was only 1 destroyer.
     
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    I noticed it right away in Anaheim when I said: "Wait, that's not the same one!" Here we see the "Super" version in addition to the one in the opening shot....there's more than just one!
     
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    Yes I noticed it. This indicates several, perhaps an entire naval group of Imperial destroyers were grounded or crashed onto Jakku. The presence of AT-ATs does not necessarily indicate a ground war. The AT-ATs could easily have survived said crash, and "walked" out. Who knows...
     
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    Yeah I thought so too but everyone kept calling the first seen one a SUPER Star Destroyer so I just kept my mouth shut thinking I was wrong lol
     
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    Perhaps it was a surprise attack by the rebels on a "harbored" Imperial fleet over Jakku. Can you say "Pearl Harbor" perhaps?
     
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    Only to later fall over sideways and become someones house... not like a boss.

    But in all seriousness, we've seen vehicles traveling on Jakku, so we know there is a fuel source. Why would that AT-AT have fallen over and become someone's makeshift home? Not because of a lack of fuel source... If it simply walked out of the crashed Star Destroyer, wouldn't there have had to have been some kind of subsequent land battle with it? We've got downed X-wings, too. There is plenty of evidence that this was a major land battle, not just a "space battle" as indicated in the original Reddit post...

    Just curious because I don't recall, but have we ever seen how exactly an AT-AT is deployed from an Imperial Navy unit onto a planet? If I remember right, in ESB the AT-ATs just walked in on Hoth. Nothing shown in between that and the prior probe droid arrival. In any event, that actual deployment is something I would really like to see.
     
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    Don't get hung-up on the AT-AT thing. The AT AT's were in the SD and SDD. So no, it isn't completely refuted.
     
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    I agree that if there are SD or SSD on Jakku, so too are there AT-ATs. But if a SD or SSD go down, that is going to cause MASSIVE damage, both to the exterior and interior. Must have been a damn good seatbelt that AT-AT was wearing to have not been damaged and still operational to just walk out. I suspect that the mechanism for AT-AT deployment out of one of those capital ships would have to be similarly damaged or impaired, even if just from the release point. For example, on the upright SD, my guess is the deployment point was on the underside of the ship, which now is buried in dirt. If also deployed from the underside on the SSD, that AT-AT would have to come out upside-down. Sorry, I just don't see how an AT-AT just walks out of there...

    Occam's Razor... The more we delve into this the more I am convinced that there was a massive land battle, as described by Battlefront, which refutes the original Reddit rumor about MVS being a SD commander who survives, is abandoned by the Empire, and sets up a colony of the very first inhabitants on Jakku.
     
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    The AT-AT could have fallen out while the Destroyer was plummeting to the ground.
     
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    Not wearing its seatbelt? If so, there is no way it survives the impact such that its hull remains intact, at least sufficient for someone to take up residence inside. (But who knows, maybe they abandoned that housing concept after realizing how improbable that is.)

    By the way, I am really enjoying this amicable debate, so I hope no one takes any of my questions as ill-motivated in any way. :D
     
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    They have their own drop pads to land independently on a planet.
     
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    Maybe it wasn't that high up? I'm just spitballing man.

    He's talking that there wasn't a drop ship because that would imply a land battle.
     
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