SPECULATION Luke isn't the last jedi

just a SMILEY face...........

 

I think it recognizes a new group of Light Force Sensitives have appeared and one of them is very strong in the force. This is what is discussed not that the Dark side has not dominated all for a very long time.

 

I think it is simply about the Force reacting, as it once did with Anakins creation, to the growing imbalance caused by the FO and KOR.

I think the destruction of the Jedi (again), Kylos turn, the FO taking over planets etc leads to, as LST says, despair growing in the galaxy.

Therefore the Force awakens (going to sleep after balance was restored) to enable a new set of Jedi to defeat the dark side and restore balance once more.

 

Nope, Luke IS the last jedi... and Rey will be the last after he dies (in Episode VIII probably, or in Episode IX)

 

I wish to add that Palpatine's adoration was mostly because of Sith's ability to manipulate weak minds. He simply places that thought in their heads. It seems that Sheev's abilities as a Sith were unmatched by the weaken Jedi whose arrogance was their ultimate downfall.

 

Just wanted to add.....the Force is created by life....and the Sith had created two planet-destroying weapons that wipe out life in huge swaths. That's pretty much a major attack on the Force, itself.

And now...BACK TO THE TOPIC!!!

 

But.. isn't it a bit boring to have max two Jedi for two whole trilogies? It suited the OT, but I think now is the time to show us Jedi order in a new light and more powerful. There should be more than only Rey and Luke.. There's no Rule of Two for Jedi, is there? I want to see Luke starting a new Jedi order in ST, maybe very different from the PT order, which clearly lost the way..

I very much love the OP's theory, I thought something similar after watching TFA several times:
I think Rey has been trained as a Jedi, presumably by Luke, when she was little. This would explain why she was able to do the mind trick and use the Force against Kylo. Wouldn't it be cool if she's one of a number of Luke's apprentices, whom he scattered and hidden around the galaxy to keep them safe from Snoke or something, and probably wiped their memories? They would be like sleeping agents waiting for a signal to come back.
Surely we are probably wrong, but I can imagine a great scene in EpVIII of Luke somehow giving the signal and all the "sleeping" Jedi waking up and relying together to fight the evil..

 

Your idea is certainly interesting but I don't believe that there are other Luke's apprentices hidden around the galaxy, besides Rey (and on this fact, that she was one of Luke's apprentice, I agree with you). I believe that Rey is in fact special, not only for the strong force connection in her, but ultimately because she's a Skywalker (Luke's or Leia's... for sure she's Vader's granddaughter, John Williams strongly implied this in "Rey's Theme" and the music doesn't lie... ) and probably Ben spared her as a child because she's family to him (cousin or sister... who knows, many people believe cousin but I strongly suspect sister...). However it's not impossible that new force users will arise or have already arisen during the "awakening" of TFA (many people believe in Finn or Poe as force users for example... I don't agree about Finn but Poe perhaps is too much of a great pilot not to be a force user himself... ), so maybe we could have more than two Jedi or at least "padawan-style" force users in the ST.

 

Maybe Lucasfilm does but Disney doesn't know anything .

 

Is your name Pablo Hidalgo? Kathleen Kennedy? No? George Lucas perhaps? Ah....

Why, then, do you get to literally make up your own individual version of the mechanics of how the Force works in the GFFA universe that also directly contradicts what people whose names DO match those above have said about this topic?

What @master_shaitan has to say about the prevailing philosophy of the Force much more closely parallels the portrayal of it in the Star Wars universe and how it characters talk about, and react to it in that universe, especially those with the most authority on the subject, Jedi masters.

While it is true that @master_shaitan has an outside influence to his thoughts as an obvious fan of The Wheel of Time, this actually helps him "get it," as he is able to compare and contrast how the One Power from Randland and The Force from Star Wars are portrayed. While The One Power has much more direct symbolism and is treated in a much more openly allegorical fashion, both supernatural concepts have similar treatments in their respective universes.

So you can't go around saying that the Force doesn't have a dark side and a light side when it very clearly does. You can't say that it cannot go out of balance based on the actions of individuals who tap into it, when it very clearly does, as the audience is told throughout the films, either implicitly, in the case of the OT, or explicitly, as in the case of the PT and now ST.

Why would you even go around trying to make up a new philosophy surrounding a fictional mystic power within a setting that contradicts everything that has been presented about it "in universe" up to this point? And then go around telling everyone else that they are wrong???

 

Because the Force (among dozens of other plot points) contraicts in OT and PT, thats why. There are like dozens of my comments where I explained it. Its not included in the OT implicitly.
And the Force does not have two sides, thats canon I think. There is only one side and the dark side is only a kind of corruption, the debate was not about that.

 

If Luke is not the last jedi, then the episode VII opening crawl lied to me. He is the last Jedi. Then he will die. Rey will be the last Jedi.

 

There is no contradiction, that is a construct of your own personal projecting on and filling in the holes left by the unexplained and mystical nature of the Force in the OT. All the PT does, like it or not, is flesh out and fill in those holes. The Dark Side is never, ever described as a corruption of the Force itself, but there is talk of minds being seduced and corrupted to the Dark Side.

The only contradiction here is that which goes against your own invention of what you want the Force to be about in the OT. Just because it didn't pan out that way as revealed in the PT and continuing into the ST, doesn't make it a contradiction. It is in fact consistent within the GFFA universe, just not with how you envisioned it to be.

Your description of how the Force works may be how you want it to be, but it isn't how it actually works in the fictional reality of the Star Wars universe.

 

An answer which is up to academic standard. It's the paideia I'm sure I like it.

I would even guess that they are going to ditch the prequel interpretation of the force in favour of the more mysterious and dichotomous interpretation of the Force in the Originals. I certainly favour the latter. I like lacunae and holes. Lucas' digression on the Force in the prequels pretty much ruined the mystery of it. The fact that we are now discussing Rey's use of the Force and her vision most frequently across this board, and the fact that the movie is called "The Force Awakens", means that the original "open" interpretation is very much restored.

 

Great, just like the OT. No progress at all and a massive disservice to Luke's character and his story arc. I'm really struggling to understand why some people want a rehash like this.

 

Just like the OT? You do know that Luke was only the "Last Jedi" for 70 minutes in Return of the Jedi. Luke never was the last of the jedi in A New Hope nor was he in Empire Strikes Back. Luke being the 'Last Jedi' in TFA is a logical extension of a story element that was present in the third act of Return of The Jedi. The fact that Luke is still the final Jedi 30 years after underlines his failure. It explains why he is on the island in the first place. And it explains why Leia is trying to find him. "That boy is our last hope". Yoda: "no there is another".

You see. You pull the story into superficiality. But when you start to think about this particular plot element of the Force Awakens you discover that it has a lot of subtext which can be explained in reference to the other movies. But then your 'rehash' criticism was the easy way of course. It required the least amount of thought. Superficial. And for a person who calls himself "just passing through" such a "superficial" argument is quite revealing.

 

Yup, you are absolutely right. I think most of us ,,preuqel-haters" have the so called thing head-canon (for me, its the OT only, and maybe the ST). But I cant deny the fact that everything in the prequels is canon, so is the unbalance, Jar-jar, midichlorians and so on.

However the dark side is canon tho, I couldn't find the article, but Lucas himself sated that the Force isnt divided to two parts. There is only the light side and the dark side is only a corruption (like a disiease) which causes the unbalance.

 

The Jedi in the prequels were the most boring and inconsistential thing I have ever seen in Star Wars. I'm glad there is only one Jedi left. When you have more than two, they will stand and talk in circles all day about "how didn't we foresee?", "clouded we are" etc. etc. ect. "we are really not affected by this world we are"......

In terms of storytelling, having one or two jedi is much more interesting. It makes them special as compared to the other characters and the context in which you find them. If you have hundreds of Jedi you begin to wonder why the protagonists are so important in the first place. In many ways the abundance of jedi made the prequels very bad.