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Luke's screen time theory

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by Qui-GON29, Apr 24, 2015.

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Your thoughts on Luke appearing in one scene?

  1. Meh.. As long as the story satisfies me I don't mind.

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  2. This is outrageous!!

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  3. I don't care about Luke, whatever son

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  4. Anyone seen my power converters?

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  1. Paul Resendes

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    Again.....you do realize that every actor was allowed to come and go to fulfill prior scheduled appearances including Hamill, Fisher, Mayhew, Serkis and Driver. Driver was back in the states every other week to film Girls. Daisy and Boyega were seen at public events. By your logic perhaps they aren't in the film as much as we thought as well?
    As for the beard and hair, you do realize that most likely he's going to be wearing his hood and robe most of the time he's seen on screen right? And you do know that scenes aren't filmed in chronological order right? And you do know there's rumors that some of Lukes scenes take place at a different timeline right? And you do know that he pretty much said himself he was at studio right?
     
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    So be honest - how will you all react if it turns out Hamill really is only in one short scene at the very end and has no dialogue, and Luke's only other appearance is within the context of a "force vision" flashback with a different actor portraying him?
     
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    Personally, I will be fine as long as it services the story. But I will immediately start stealing myself up for all the threads and posts here about how much the movie sucked because of it. ;)
     
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    I've stated before and will keep saying, I don't mind as long as there's the eventual payoff in Ep. 8 of a larger role where he can be a mentor to Finn and/or Rey and he eventually sacrifices himself for them.
     
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    I'm perfectly happy with that so long as it serves the story. I want to see great Star Wars. Don't resally care about who shows up when and who interacts with who as long as the scripts is good and the action is fun.
     
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    You took the words right out of my mouth Kyle.. ;) Awesome writing..;)
     
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    Are you referring to the scene they showed Luke kneeling by R2 and in the behind the scenes you can tell it's Hamill by his hands? That scene?

    There's zero evidence that scenario is true other than speculation coming from some attention seeking blogger.

    As for how I'll react, I would be fine with it if it's written well and makes sense. Though I still think it would be a slap in the face to the fans and to Mark Hamill.
     
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    Not to ruin Your point, because you are right for the most part. But TFA was actually shot in sequence, which is something JJ trends to do.
     
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    Except Ford's injury screwed up that plan
     
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    It's hilarious how so many people are willing to delude themselves and cling to their fanboy fantasies despite an ever-growing avalanche of evidence to the contrary. Whatever your personal feelings towards certain bloggers, it's pretty clear that their sources are legit.
     
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    What evidence is that?
     
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    To this point all officially released material matches the MSW reports based off "the document". So it stands to reason the rest of it will be true as well (with caveat that you can't necessarily include MSW's speculation. Only the direct document info.)
     
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    Based on a minute and a half teaser from a 2 hr plus film.

    And again I bring up the point I made earlier. Up until a week or two ago he claimed he knew everything that was filmed. He claimed Phasma was the Fett of this film with little screen time and little to do. Now he says she's in more scenes than he originally thought. Do you see why I find it hard to believe he's got the entire film?
    This goes back to when he originally said Luke was in only one scene. At that point he said he was 110% sure that he knew all the scenes. Then he back tracked saying Luke is in more than one scene but Hamill is only in one scene that they got some 20 yr old actor to play a 50 yr old version of Luke. But now we've seen the teaser and a behind the scenes photo that possibly disproves that theory.
     
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    Again though, you are conflating Jason and the document. Jason has been wrong many times. To this point, what he has shown us directly from the shot list has not ever been wrong. Yes, its only 2 and a half minutes. But if it was a complete fake, then we wouldn't have shots matching up perfectly. Could there be omissions? I've said time and time again yes. But to this point, the shot list has been legitimate so I don't see any reason to doubt it. Jason's speculation and other sources, I don't trust nearly as much. But the shot list says Luke is in two scenes, the flashback and the end. Nothing that has been released officially discredits either that assumption or the document itself. You can hope there's more if you don't like that direction for the movie. But it is only a hope. There is no evidence yet that says the shot list is wrong or purposely deceptive. Could still turn out to be so. But the more we get, the more it is proven correct and the less likely it becomes that there will be any variations off what it says.
     
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    What Max Rebo said. Jason's sources were pretty reliable early on, but once he got whatever documentation he has now it really solidified.

    He's made it clear that there's quite a bit of interpretation involved in reading the document (the snippets he's posted support that), so I can't say I'm shocked that he's unclear on some details.

    Most of the stuff he ate crow on was speculation (i.e. cyborg Luke), and a lot of that was clearly marked as speculation as much as a lot of haters would like to pretend otherwise. I don't necessarily trust his analysis on everything, but it's clear that his sources are solid.
     
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    Hey guys!

    Let's stay on topic. This is not a thread debating MSW or the validity of their sources. We all know where the rumor started and that's that.
     
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    Again I bring up the Phasma situation. Why is it that he's back tracked on the amount she's in it? Either he doesn't have the complete shot list. Or he hadn't decoded it correctly.
    Again two weeks he ago he was completely positive he knew everything that was shot. Then where are these extra scenes coming from?
     
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    Shot lists don't list all characters in the shot individually and frequently don't identify the subject of a shot by name. Easy to not realize someone was in a scene. This is why I say its possible Luke will appear more, but unlikely. But that doesn't undermine the validity of the shot list.

    That being said, @Kyle says we can't talk about it anymore. So we'll have to agree to disagree. At this point after months of debating this with you, I understand and accept the fact that I will never be able convince you that MSW is right on anything. :)
     
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    Come on now, I didn't say that. Just asking to keep this on topic and not focus on the accuracy of MSW's sources.

    Trying to put out fires before they start, as certain people associated with that reporting can be polarizing figures. That's all, not trying to censor anyone.
     
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