Luke's screen time theory

I don't buy it either, unless it goes down somewhat like you just said here.

And I'm very against Han dying.

 

I strongly believe Han will die. Not saying this will be the "right" move for the movie, but I think they will kill a classic character and he is candidate #1.

Now, the Luke stuff is pretty clouded. I like to think that MSW is probably correct on most things, but will be wrong in one or another big thing - either because some things are effectively kept secret or because they were deliberately fed with misinformation.

If the MSW stuff turns out to be 100% accurate (Han dies, Luke has seconds of screen time at the end, they never meet on-screen), then I fear that this will be a super risky move for the movie. After the 2nd teaser came out, if you look at people's comments over the web people are basically super anxious to see Luke - everyone, everywhere. Creating a huge build up for Luke and then showing him on the last scene only will make a good part of the audience feel betrayed, a horrible way to start a new trilogy.

And, FWIW, I personally don't share the feeling of comments like "I trust JJ / KK / LK, so whatever happens will be best for the movie". I think the choices for director and writers were awesome, but everyone can screw up. Up until Episode 1 came out, no one was more trusted than George Lucas to make the prequels.

And sorry if this sounded pessimist, I actually believe a lot that the movie (and the whole trilogy) will be awesome - and that's exactly why I think there's one or another big thing that MSW is missing or got wrong.

 

I agree with MSW. He will be in one scene at the end. I personally think this scenario would be awesome. Kira walking up concrete steps on Skellig Michael, Camera pans up from his feet to his face, she hands Luke the saber..he ignites it....Awesome!!!

 

I also believe that Han dies, unfortunately.

 

I really really hope that we don't get only one scene of Luke in this film. It seems pretty established rumors that Luke is the one to find in EP 7. That everyone for one reason or another is looking for him. And the to only have him show up at very end for just a few second is complete and utter bull-"#€%&.

I cannot imagine JJ Abrams being that stupid. He seems adamant to scratch that OT itch a lot of us has. And the trailers seem also to reminds us that this is back, and just make everything completely uber crystal clear, he even closes out the trailer by saying it to our face! "Chewie we're home". Yes we are. And being home with Star Wars means that Luke is there as well, not missing the whole film.


A theory of mine that could explain exactly why MSW's rumor of Luke only being in one scene is wrong, is the flashback we saw in the trailer with younger Luke sitting by the fire with R2-D2. It's only the two of them. If this is in relation to his academy being destroyed or the loss of a padawan (Kylo?) the who will tell the flashback if not Luke himself?

 

Luke's screen time...

1.5-15 min flash back scene The Jedi Academy
2.5 min flash back him saying goodbye to R2 as we saw in the second trailer
3.20-40 min scene where Finn confronts Ren and Rey tries to help Finn, and Han solo dies, and also in this scene Luke confronts Ren where we find out Ren is Hans son.

So roughly 40-50 mins of a 2 in half hourish movie, about the time time we saw obi-wan in ANH.

Oh yeah forgot to add some screen time for Rey and Luke at the tomb.

 

That would be satisfying, but the problem is that people are afraid we're not going to see Luke confront Kylo Ren.

 

I completely agree and the death of Han provides a major means of plot advancement for the next two movies, especially if Rey is indeed a Solo. Even better if Kylo Ren is a Solo also. I'm pretty sure that Han will die for two reasons:

1. While JJ has said (basically) that he will not simply repeat what previous movies have done, echoes are pretty important for Star Wars. The death of Han would be very similar to the deaths of Qui Gon and Obi Wan.

2. Neither Qui Gon nor Obi Wan were central to the advancement of the plot - you didn't need either one of them to move things forward. I think the same will be true of Han in Ep. VII. However, the deaths of Qui Gon and Obi Wan were central to advancing the plot and I'm pretty sure this will be the same purpose for the death of Han, as crushing as that will be. We knew Qui Gon for one movie and Obi Wan for half a movie - we have a longer 'relationship', so to speak, with Han Solo. Watching him die will be profoundly sad, though it will invest the new trilogy with an emotional weight that will separate it from the other trilogies, particularly the PT.

 

I definitely would like *some* interaction between all of the big 3 at some point in EP7 but it has to serve the story. It could feel like cheap nostalgic fan service if all they do is pal around and what not. If Han dies, and I think he will, we won't get another chance to see them on screen together ever again. They can make it work somehow and to see them reunited would make Han's rumored sacrifice all the more tragic/moving.

 

Although I think he probably dies. I found it curious that K. Kennedy made mention of Ford being back for VIII while being interviewed at SWC.

 

I think Luke will have more than one scene but we won't know its him. We will see a cloaked figure lurking in the shadows watching Rey from a distance, only to be revealed at the end as the great Luke Skywalker.

 

ok my hope is that if LUKE is in one scene it is from a "certain point of view" that somehow mark hamill will be in more scenes but LUKE will be in only one...... (IE he is masked or hidden in his other shots)

 

That's what I just said! lol

 

I think Luke will be in way more than 1 scene. I also am not convinced that Han dies.

 

I agree Luke coming back for one scene is a insult, I hope Han doesn't die until the 3rd movie.

 

I've been convinced Han would bite it ever since last year, and I'll still believe it until I see the film for myself. As for cameo Luke? Yeah, I do believe MSW is missing more than he thinks.