Luke's screen time theory

At some point in this trilogy I want to see Luke kick @$$ as a, or more to the point the Jedi Master. It makes sense, to me, for that to come in one or both of the latter two episodes. I understand that this trilogy is the story of the next generation with the appearances/support of the previous generation, as was the case in the OT mostly and a little bit in the PT. If Han is to die in 'The Force Awakens' of course I will be saddened, but I haven't been waiting for 30 years to see Han as a Jedi Master having trained Jedi or still in the process of training Jedi knights. I've been wanting to see Luke in that capacity. Non force-aspects/characters are an important aspect of the saga/SWU, however, the Force is what separates SW from every other franchise/genre out there and that is what I crave. If there is one of the big three who receives the most screen time overall in the ST I want it to be Luke, and if Han is to receive most of the screen time in TFA and Luke very little, I'm happy with that. Without any insider knowledge of this film, I have to rely on the reports on this site and MSW, and those reports suggest Mark Hamill has little screen time and Harrison Ford has the bulk of the classic hero screen time. I can cope with Luke having limited screen time in TFA as long as he has a bigger, albeit supporting role in the ST overall.

 

After seeing trailer 2, i think Luke and R2 are at Hans funeral/burning.

 

THIS 100%. We have loads of new characters in this film! We have 35 years of new stuff to catch up on! Wear adult diapers people because you are going to be overwhelmed by the visuals alone.

You guys clamoring for Luke, trust me you will get yours. You WILL get yours. Fans of Han solo get Han solo in TFA and will be the main OT character focus for the first ST film until he dies near the end. That makes a new hole for an OT character to fill in VIII which I think will be Luke. Leia will be around the whole time but she's much more of a supporting character most of the time so she fits in on a here and there basis.

We need to realize that just because we want to see something doesn't mean we get it right off the bat. Look at the beloved OT for example. Everyone wanted to see that Luke vs. Vader duel to the death and when did we actually get it? The last film in the trilogy. Watching a great story develop is much better than getting cheap thrills ASAP. Let's enjoy the story and everything that comes with it!

 

I think it is very reasonable to think that while MSW may have some shot-lists, he does not have them all. I have yet to hear anything substantial from him about Act 3. What could possibly be more spoilerific than Han dying? Maybe it's Han not dying. This is just a theory, a genuine shot-in-the-dark, but maybe while everyone is looking for Luke, he's actually following them. MSW only says that Han is silenced; maybe he cuts hit with a lightsaber or otherwise incapacitated, and is left for dead out of necessity. The good guys escape, Kylo them, and Luke shows up to save Han's life. Han doesn't even know it's Luke, he's unconscious or delirious, but we got our favorites galactic-pals sharing the screen together again. I'm really not advocating this, there are a lot of plot holes that would have to be filled-in to make this work, but I'm just spitballing a reason as to why certain scenes would still be kept under-wraps. MSW might have some information, but unless he is secretly JJ or Kasdan, he is not omnipotent on all things SW.

 

Did MSW actually say that Luke only has one scene in the movie, or did he say that Mark Hamill only has one scene in the movie. I've heard rumors that Robert Boulter plays a young Luke Skywalker for vision/flashback.

But he may be right that we only see Mark Hamill at the end of the movie.

 

For what it is worth, I believe we will se a lot more of Luke than a single 5sec scene towards the end. I also believe that if Han dies, (he probably will), it won't be until E.VIII (when the antes are upped and things go badly for the heroes), or E.IX (when he might sacrifice himself for the overall casue and saga). Han COULD be killed off in E.VII, each episode is its own story after all (with it's own separate second and third act), but overall I think it would be better if the good oldies became well-reestablished in the story before they start dying off.

That said, I strongly belive the old ones won't have nearly as much of a story here as will the new guys.

 

@Max Rebo; I don't want to dive into that debate here either, we can all agree that that tauntaun has been skinned every-which-way.

But if we play with the idea that there are missing scenes on this supposed shot list, I would venture this guess: that the scenes in question feature very few actors (i.e.- only Ford and Hamill), or that they were shot in one manner and edited in post to play out completely different (i.e.- "I am your father.") I firmly believe that there is twist (or multiple twists) in Act 3 and that JJ is doing all that he can to conceal this. With that in mind, a "public" shot list (one that could possibly be leaked and not spoil the ending) may be what MSW has access to.

 

As someone else said before, Hamill was on the set nearly 6 months of time of filming.. They wouldn't make Mark film nearly 6 months of footage only to include a couple of scenes of Luke and cut the rest out of the film. So in my opinion it is all made up..

 

Why are there 2 threads for this?

 

Well Luke might not be in it much but surely the trailer has shown that he won't only be in one brief scene with Rey at the end, because he's in that scene with R2 as well.

 

Why would he hang around for 6 months to film a few scenes that would take maybe a week? He could just fly back to California if he wasn't needed. Oh right, that rascal JJ trying to misdirect all of us!

 

See, I heard rumors that Robert Boulter is playing the cyborg Luke near the end, and Mark Hamill was playing flashback Luke in the middle, and his stunt double Rhye Copeman was playing the Luke at the very end at Skellig Michael.



MARK HAMILL:


ROBERT BOULTER:


RHYE COPEMAN (aka: Bearded Luke):

If YOU were a cyborg, wouldn't you want to come back looking 30 years younger? Clearly, he's had his face reconstructed to look younger (see concept art above). This is why younger actors are playing Luke at the end.

 

I know a lot of people would reject, but I really wouldn't mind Luke just being in the end as a cameo and be more prevalent in episodes VIII and IX.
It would allow a more emotional connection to Han dying since he would get a lot more screen time than Luke. It makes sense from a directing stand point going into a series such as this.

 

I'm really startled that so many people would disagree with the 3-Luke Rumor.
Maybe I need to re-order them? Rhye Copeman is definitely at Skellig....sooooo....I guess Boulter is the flashback Luke and Hamill is the scary cyborg Luke.
OR....maybe there's a 4th? Regular bearded Luke played by......

 

I think this has a high probability of being the case. Seems like a very Obi-Wan thing for Luke to do.

 

I thought of that, especially with Luke sitting near that camp fire in what looks like Jakku, but why all the creeper stalking? why the worn out hand? Oh nevermind I won't go there...

 

What is Mark Hamill was at Pinewood.... as an extra...playing a short stormtrooper:


Mystery solved. Time to close the thread.