Main Palpatine/Ian Mcdiarmid Episode IX Thread

No. The essence transference would likely have happened long before the events of RotJ even if he didn't feel like his life was truly in any danger.

That's why it would have been a "failsafe" and contingency.

You plan for the future even if that future never comes to pass.

 

well, that's life...

 

It doesn't, though.

 

Palps survived Anakin, Palps survived Luke, Palps survived Solo, Yoda and Kenobi.

Well, yeah, for some people, clones ( bad idea ) or not, it's a strange choice for a story which was supposed to talk about heroes defeating the big evil.

 

It all seems so desperate bringing him back. The last episode really killed off too many storylines so they are having to scramble around to make something up. It’s going to be an utter disappointment if he suddenly pops up after so definitively being killed off.

 

But obviously the story wasn't over yet.

 

It's OK but it's no need to celevrate at the end of VI because the winners are going to die and the evil is still there.

Our heroes were just showing off and our force ghosts friends didn't warn Luke or anyone else saying : Heu guys, it's not over yet. Get your trumpet back in your pack.

 

Most stories are about heroes TRYING to defeat the big evil. The fact that evil may survive in some form (see Sauron or Voldemort), doesn't make the protagonist less of a hero...

In any case, it has been 36 years since ROTJ, I bet that even George Lucas himself looking back would have made some things here and there different. I dont think that Palpatine surviving makes Vader's sacrifice pointless...

 

Sauron survived the Lords of the Rings with the same power ?

Voldemort survived Harry Potter ?

Tell me more. I'm not a specialist of these stories.

 

Plagueis needed to be the main vilian of the ST. doesn't undo the OT and is perfectly set-up by previous clues in the saga. Snoke was interesting and demonstrated more powerful force powers than we'd seen before, but now it seems like he's gone for good. He was even described as being much more powerful than the Emperor, so what gives? just bring him back under his 'true' identity. Seems like they are indeed scrambling around to tie things together but having Palpatine being the vilian again is just messy, IMO. Lucas said his original idea for the ST would be an even greater vilian pulling the strings all along (Plagueis?) so it's dissapointing they scrapped his outline for something less cohesive.

 

I don't even really know if Vader's sacrifice is even worthwhile if you forget about ROTJ. He may care for Luke in a selfish manner, but he still cares for him in ESB, despite conflicting direction for Prowse and Jones.

 

Seems to be the flavor of the month.

 

Really? I thought that the ST almost seemed to be actively anti-ROTJ to propel the plot along. I'm sort of surprised that the majority of people aren't aware of this until recently.

 

Sorry for replying so late, I just saw your post. Not sure if you are making fun of what I say or not, but I was actually reffering to Sauron surviving Isildur and Voldemort surviving Lilly-his own spell...

 

Both are not the center of the saga and as far as I know, Frodo and Harry Potter didn't die in their respective stories while the bad villain was still around.

 

The plot can do whatever it wants, sadly. If SW and SW fans can accept Leia becoming Luke's sister in ROTJ, and Luke and Leia not being genuinely disturbed about this in ROTJ after Luke's hints of being attracted to Leia in ANH and hints of a romantic relationship in ESB, then I see no problem with this. Even if Vader's "sacrifice" (when he could have just force-pulled Luke's lightsaber and killed him or force-choked the emperor to make him stop) is undone.

 

Jedi Temple Archives - Hasbro Tidbits From The London Comic Con

Why no pre-release Palpatine toys when they've been trying to shove the character down people's throats before release in the marketing. Unless there's some kind of feint at work. That image in the teaser poster was photoshopped from an older toy supposedly, it wasn't new. McDiarmid said the laugh in the teaser was from an old archive, etc.

 

It’s called containment. Lucasfilm is trting to keep the spoilers surrounding Sheev to a minimum. The trailer despite revealing his throne, hearing his voice, and possibly seeing his hood, left more questions than answers.

 

That’s because: