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SPOILER Maybe don't read this if you want a big surprise

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by Kyle, Sep 14, 2014.

  1. Kyle

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    Not even sure if this is true, and it was one thing I was holding out on posting because I don't want to throw it out and potentially ruin the surprise if it's true. I trust you saw the big, red spoiler tag on this post and that has never been more appropriate if this is true.

    Last chance.


    SPOILERS SPOILERS



    Yoda appears as a Force ghost at the end of Ep7. Only to Luke. Apparently it was one of the first scenes shot. My sources have seen pieces of the script, but they say very few people in production have an entire script, start to finish.

    I was told if the scene was filmed it is very brief. I was not told if Frank Oz voiced and/or performed Yoda(how cool would that be?), but I assume since this is an entry in the saga it would be no one else but him. I say "if" the scene was filmed for two reasons: 1) They stated they were not sure the dialogue they were looking at but 90% sure it was Ep7 and not some Yoda spin-off; 2)They saw this last spring, right before production started, so it could have been cut.

    Summary of the dialogue was Yoda encouraging a very beaten down Luke to continue to pass on what he learned because the Galaxy needs the Jedi more than ever. That's not verbatim, just the vibe.

    Again, I would like to state this could very well not be true. It seems like something this major would have gotten out by now, but at the same time if it is a small scene or more of a cameo it might have slipped through the cracks. Just passing on what I heard.

    I am also pessimistic because script pages for a scene that big would most likely never see the light of day unless they were in Mark Hamill and Frank Ozs hands. But again, my sources insist they are most likely from Episode 7.
     
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    Another great scoop man. If this scene really happens then it will have me more emotional than a twelve year old girl watching Dear John. :)
     
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    One of the benefits of having Force ghosts would to be able to use them in future installments. I hope they use not just Yoda but Obi-Wan and Anakin as well.
     
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    I imagine that a Yoda cameo would be the easiest of the three Force Ghosts to pull off - and he's left a huge impact on the franchise as a character.

    I think that it would most likely done with CGI in order to prevent anything from leaking out. That, and "puppet-ghostery" seems like it would be more trouble than it is worth.
     
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    Kyle, have you read the actual script? What else can you tell us that you have heard?
     
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    Based on what I've gathered when looking at his posts, it sounds like what he's heard of comes from an outside source. Even if he did read the script, I doubt that he'd spill the beans everywhere.
     
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    I have not seen or read the script. What I have posted here comes from two sources who have both seen parts of the script, but not the entire thing.
     
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    if true, i hope they make a better cgi yoda than in the PT if it's cgi (i prefer the puppet) because there were something very odd with Yoda's skin in the cgi version, especially in closeups, it didn't look real or even solid, almost like he was semi-transparent.
    But as a force ghost he will be blue & transparent anyway, so it will hopefully look a lot better than the "alive" yoda cgi

    but the easiest way of doing it would probably be to simply use the old Yodapuppet from ESB & ROTJ
     
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    Using a puppet they would have to still use CGI or he would look alive and not like a force ghost. .
     
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    Speculation ;)

    At the end of Episode VII, even if it ends on a high note. Luke is concerned and can't believe The Dark side of the Force has found a way to ressurect. He summons Yoda and ask him what should be his next move, to face the new evil all by himself. Yoda basically tells Luke: NO! You would lose. Spend the rest of your life passing on what you have learn. Starting with Daisy.
     
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    I am BEGGING for a scene with Force Ghost Anakin. (Hayden Christensen) i will shed tears, I'm sure of it.
     
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    I believe that the Dark Side is not eradicated in the Battle Of Endor. I think the Dark Side exists with or without the Sith. So the idea that it is restored or resurrected is off in my personal head canon. I believe that the Sith are ultimately trying to be bigger than the force or be sole controllers of the force. The are ultimately trying to overthrow the force, hence the birth of Anakin. The Jedi especially the trained Force Ghost Jedi understand to flow with the force as a surfer on a wave. Sith will use the Darkside to try and control that wave. As long as there is the Force the Darkside will exist. I don't think we have scratched the surface of the nature of the force (cosmic or living) even with the Mortis and Yoda arcs of TCW.
     
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    I know many will reject that flat out, but I actually think a scene with Hayden in ghost form could do quite a bit to reconcile the two previous trilogies. A well directed and acted scene involving Annakin expressing his remorse for his actions and behavior in the prequels to Luke could allow a tether to the PT while giving people who don't like Hayden a scene in which to find something to enjoy from him.

    Much like clone wars has helped a lot of people find more depth in Obi Wan, Annakin, and Pdame's characters, one great scene with a solid performance from Christansen could have a similar effect for the actor and in turn soften feelings towards the PT.
     
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    Once you put it that way, Max Rebo, I don't disagree. The problem is getting it into the story without it seeming forced and pandering. Going to take some creative writing and great acting.
     
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    Honestly this doesn't surprise me and may have even been in an early George treatment as well. I'd expect a few lanterns hung on the flaws of the old order and the expectations for the new order and Yoda has definitely been involved in that subject over the last few years of media.


    I'd also not be surprised if Luke's death brings him into the exclusive team-blue-glowy so as to not rely on CGI Yoda in the future.
     
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    Exactly. I don't picture much. I see something similar to the somber scene Luke has with Obi-Wan after Yoda's death. Just a short scene where Anakin comes clean as to how things really went down. A little self deprecation and regret from Christiansen could go a long way for those of us that weren't fond of his performance.
     
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    I somewhat wonder if a force-ghost Anakin would cause any uproar or not. I'm half-and-half on the edit to the end of ROTJ, and I suppose it could be done fine enough, but I do imagine a large contingent of fans having an issue with that in the new movie.
     
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    One way or another....the ST will have to address force ghosts and how much Luke will/has been talking to them.

    They can't ignore it completely and Hopefully Lucas has a great answer for it. I doubt he thought of answering it that much until about a few years ago when he decided to start writing again.

    I'm sure the Force Won't let Obi-wan, Anakin and Yoda go in and out all the time as they please.

    You have to always remember as well...that just because they don't answer it in EPVII...doesn't mean they can't address it in later books, animated films etc...

    I bet we get a novel at some point of force ghost Anakin and Luke talking to each other about their past, present and future.

    Mark my words.
     
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    I for one don't want force ghosts answered. As soon as Lucas decided to start explain every little thing (midichlorians for chrissakes), the mysticism was ruined. I don't care where force ghosts come from or how they work and I wish it was never explained. If people were really desperate, he could put it in some star wars encyclopaedia for those who need to know everything.
     
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