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SPOILER MSW's Rumor and Speculation Thread (Part 2)

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by Viral Hide, Apr 7, 2015.

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    Right now, I'm drinking apple cider moonshine... but in general, I prefer rum over whiskey... if whiskey, then Bushmill's, which is the oldest whiskey distillery in the world

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    Okay, you have all had your say on MSW, and as i have said, the evidence speaks for itself, we don't need to sink into bashing. Time will play this out... so for now, let's all move along, there is nothing left to see here, and no need to waste more time on this than has been wasted
     
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    Does this confirm 100% that this character is Adam Driver? Also, when does this scene happen in the film. Didnt MSW mention something about Kylo kidnapping Rey at some point?
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    Source: r/starwarsleaks
     
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    Wow...where did that come from?
     
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    Someone in reddit noticed the similarities. Look at the girls hair! Some hair strands are carbon copies. It's pretty clear that the concept artist used this photo as a starting point.
     
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    Just had to say a quick thanks, Ed. All of us on staff here are beyond stoked that such a cool and friendly community has developed here, and speaking for myself I'm proud to be able to be a small part of it. In the end, it's all about a bunch of friends who have never met, digging on (and sometimes debating about) movies that we all love (and even some that not all of us might love).

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    Right, then. Onward and upward!
     
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    I agree.
     
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    Was Kylo force pushing or force choking in the trailer? Seemed more like he was choking someone
     
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    More like a grab
     
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    But people are way to consumed with evaluating MSW as a whole. Do we really care whether everything he has said is credible. Its the nature of the game when dealing in spoilers for a high percentage to turn out wrong. So, by its very nature we should be skeptical of anyone reporting spoilers regardless of their track records as it could easily change, be misunderstood, or be misinformation. But that doesn't change the fact that some of his sources have turned out correct. Its up to the reader to discern what they believe and what they don't. This isn't journalism, its movie spoilers. People will run with what they have a reasonable sense to believe. As there will never be complete proof until the movie is released, at which point their spoilers become meaningless. This is why you will never find a single source that is accurate 100% of the time. (For an excellent read on how seemingly solid spoilers can go wrong, read Devin Faraci's mea culpa from last week on how he got the changes to the SW digital release wrong)

    So, do we dismiss every spoiler source? Throw the baby out with the bathwater? Or do we consume everything and judge what we can and remain skeptical without being dismissive. Its a personal choice. The MF linked post proves the point that no one can be trusted. Jason went out of his way to troll Viral to make him look the fool. A dick move to be sure. But likely something people have done to MSW as well. Does that make it right? Absolutely not. But I also can't expect these sites to vet their sources for 100% accuracy. Garbage will get through as there are plenty of attention whores, sociopaths, and trolls out there who exist only to bring others down.

    And though some of what MSW has put out is garbage. Much seems to be coming true. Most significantly his "shot list" which is his most significant set of spoilers to date. The fact that he was wrong on the trailer has no impact whatsoever on the credibility of the shot list so long as you were approaching both with a critical eye to begin with.

    Point being, no one should trust 100% of what MSW reports. No one should trust 100% of what SW7, SW Underworld, L-R, or even Variety report either. Unless it comes from StarWars.com there should be reason to mistrust the info (and even then you never know with JJ in charge). But that doesn't mean that all spoilers should be dismissed either. Every report should be critiqued on its own merits, regardless of who is reporting it.
     
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    I thought this thread was supposed to just be about MSW news not Jason being an ass and people being an ass back( @Viral Hide first post in this thread) Either lock it or clean it up Mods, 5 pages of Jason bashing doesn't help anyone I don't care how big of a Scum he is. I am here for Star wars leaks, rumors and news not this crap.
     
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    Thanks for bringing that to our attention! Great find. I think that pretty much confirms that Driver is Kylo. There's no wiggle room left after that.

    You might want to throw this in the Kylo thread too if it's not already there.

    ****EDIT - Ahh, you did. Never mind! :)
     
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    Well said and very thoughtful...and from what I'm seeing, it IS ok to trust Spoilerman 100%. I'm all in.
     
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    My new hope

    I think MSW got some right, got some wrong, and maybe had a bit of a switcharoo pulled on them. That being said, my new hope is that the whole hand floating in space is a switcharoo. Maybe someone has seen it, maybe it's still there, I hope it doesn't make the final cut.

    Ps. That teaser really got my blood going again! Boy, did we ever need that!
     
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    Agree.
    But technically, Jason told us that his site doesn't spoil or leak stuff and that he has a blog about the making of the movie. So, this thread shouldn't be about leaks and rumors either....we should be talking about how puppets were made and effects sequences were assembled.
     
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    That works too! Just leave personal crap out of it.
     
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    Cult of Spoilerman unite!

    The thing that's looking most like MSW is on the money is Lupita just being Rose (instead of also a Jedi apprentice) and Luke only appearing in one scene. That's disappointing, I think the Luke thing works, but if we don't get to see Lupita in the film people are gonna be upset.
     
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    I agree with MSW's article concerning the "New Order", that is struggle for power following Sheev Palpatine's death in RotJ. Just think about it, dozens of Moffs, generals fighting to gain power: I'm sure that would lead to direct conflict between them.

    Here's my point: what if the crashed Star Destroyers we've seen in the teaser (class II and super destroyer) weren't brought down by the "rebellion" (or "resistance") but instead by another Empire faction? Just picture it, star destroyers vs. star destroyers. Tie fighters vs. tie fighters.

    I know we won't see this in the movie, but it may be in Battlefront. Who knows? :)
     
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    But why would there be a downed x-wing in the foreground if it was Empire faction vs. Empire faction on Jakku?
     
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    Darn it... That's a good point... Thought I was onto something... Oh well, better luck next time ;)
     
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    His wife comes across like a complete psychotic.
     
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