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SPECULATION OFFICIAL Finn Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by PrinceJ86, Sep 7, 2014.

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Do you think Finn will become a Jedi?

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  2. No

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  3. Force sensitive but not a jedi

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    It is the same reason why some fans want Daisy Ridley as the main lead...well...from a certain point of view. I believe John was great in Attack the Block and leading material. I want John and Daisy as the two of the three leads of trilogy. If you're speculating(because that is what this all this) that Ridley will be a offspring of Skywalker/Solo, then I rather not have the story revolve around her character. IMO, I think it should focus on a new character arc(John Boyega's character) that expands through the new trilogy.
     
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    I think the arc will follow the next in the Skywalker line. More than likely it will be Ridley, but who knows. The main story line of Star Wars follows the Skywalker family. I doubt they would change that now. As for the main three leads of the trilogy, it will be Ridley, Boyega, and either Isaac or Gleeson for sure.

    As for their supposed romance, it would indeed be multi-racial... but who cares. I just think they have good chemestry off-screen as it appears in their social media so it will probably transfer to on-screen as well.
     
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    We all don't know that. Do you have proof? We have no synopsis or character bios(except the original cast members). All we have are speculations.
     
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    If you're refering to, "As for the main three leads of the trilogy, it will be Ridley, Boyega, and either Isaac or Gleeson for sure." I forgot to put 'I think it will be...' but we do know it will center around three young leads, seeing as they are the only young actors, besides Driver who is assumed to be the villain, it will be a combination of those four previously mentioned.
     
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    Is anyone actually complaining about this? I mean, call me naive, but I assumed in 2014 this wouldn't be an issue. Is there some subculture of racist Star Wars fans I'm not aware of? I haven't actually seen anyone complaining about it anywhere.
    (note: I'm not being sarcastic. I'm genuinely curious)
     
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    I agree that completely that Boyega had killer screen presence in ATB. No doubt in my mind he will be great in the ST!...but again...The Episodic Saga is about a family. It would be a huge departure from what Lucas created and we all know his outlines are driving this trilogy.

    I keep bringing this up, but I think Boyega's role will be similar to Kenobi in the PT. He was obviously extremely important.

    I think EP 1 is the best analogy for what I'm trying to say. Qui-Gon, Padme and Kenobi were the leads in that film with Anakin left a supporting role. But starting in ep2 Anakin joined in with the main characters and became the main lead.

    I think EpVII will somewhat similar. For this film between all the NEW leads Boyega IMO will have the most screen time. Mainly because I think it starts with him and he's used as a tool for the audience when we meet characters for the first time and seeing old friends on screen...we are seeing it through his eyes and everything Is explained to us naturally.

    I think Ridley becomes the main lead afterwards in EP 8 on. Boyega still as important and crucial...just not THE CENTER.
     
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    I am actually HOPING/COUNTING on Boyega and Ridley being an item in the Saga. Hollywood needs more interracial couples in the films they make.
     
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    I'm sure people are complaining about it, but I don't really care. I just like them together for whatever reason.
     
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    Regardless of all the nuances and subtext of press releases and spoiler reports. I think Daisy is the lead (Luke/anakin) and Boyega is her co lead (han/obi-wan) for one reason only. From all the reports of filming, tweets from the set, spy pictures. Most have involved Daisy, then John, Harrison and Mark. This could be a mislead and it most definitely isn’t scientific. But this screams to me that they have the most screen time.

    We haven’t seen any location shooting reports with Carrie, Domnhall, Adam, or Oscar as far as I can tell. This tells me they are either not in it as much, or are shooting mostly studio shots. If they are shooting mostly studio shots, then it is likely it’s not on the same adventure path that we’ve been watching unfold for Daisy and John. Likely a subplot on a different planet with Leia and Adam Driver. I suppose Oscar could be the pilot hanging back with the ship (ala Wash in Firefly) and not getting mixed up in the main action. But that again, would imply he is a secondary character.

    So, my theory. Daisy and John are our leads. Luke and Han assist them/are sought out through their adventure. Carrie remains on Coruscant/Dantoinne/Naboo etc… possibly with Driver and/or Gleeson if one of them isn’t a villain developing a separate story line.
     
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    And technically it's not interracial. Interracial would involve one of them being a Twi'lek or something in the Star Wars universe.
     
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    Exactly! Ridley runs into Boyega looking for info on the crashed ship where he found the Lightsaber or wreckage. Ridley is looking for Uncle Luke.
     
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    I think that would make it interspecies
     
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    I know, I was being funny.
     
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    I'm hoping that the romance aspect with members of the new young trio would be limited to characters outside of the new young trio. That would be a bold choice for at least one or two of the three trio characters to have 2 outsiders they are looking out for and concerned about. Also, I wouldn't like the first movie to dive right into romance either. Some stuff should be saved for the sequels.
     
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    It's late and I'm skimming through things but I don't think anyone is going "oh no! Blacks and Whites intermingling!"

    I've just questioned why a lot of people seem do excited about Boyega not only being a main character, but Ridley's love interest.

    We know pretty much nothing, and yet somehow, from the earliest moments that this could be speculated about, people jumped to conclusions.


    Oh, and the guy that said something to the effect of "it's 2014, Hollywood needs more inter-racial onscreen romances"....seriously? Why? A romance is a romance, do you really think Star Wars should forcefully portray a certain kind of romance? Let it be natural, no matter what it is) but don't imply that it needs to be a certain way.

    That said, and this will likely be misconstrued and unpopular, but I don't mean it to be....a GLBT relationship would be odd and feel very forced and agenda driven (because we've never seen any inkling of that in the GFFA and politically it's a topic, so it would certainly seem very agenda driven).

    Oh and yeah I mean probably don't want to see anyone hook up with a Wookie, Rodian, or Hutt either. It would be....um...a bit of a surprise.
     
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    Well, I for one hope John and Daisy are just best friends. We never see movies where guys and girls can just be close friends without sexual tension coming into play. Makes it's seem like men and women can never connect on an intimate level unless it's a romance.

    If Boyega does get a love interest, I want it to be somebody outside of the main trio who dies later on (possibly Ep IX) to test his resolve not to fall to the dark side.
     
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    It wasn't my comment, but I think the point was, all things being equal, why not choose to portray those relationships. Its not as if the characters are real people being forced into relationships that don't fit. These characters are being created from scratch, so they can be any race or orientation the writers want. So, it would not be forcing anything. It would be choosing to represent these relationships that have been underrepresented in the movies in proportion to their frequency in the real world.

    The reason you had not seen any LGBT relationships in past star wars stories is because it is a still resolving social taboo that is now standing on its last legs. In 1977, if Han fell for Luke the movie wouldn't have been released. In 99, If Obi-Wan had a thing for Qui-Gon (still not entirely convinced that subtext doesn't actually exist) the movie would have been boycotted. Today, we are at a point, where presence in a star wars movie would be debated, but accepted by a good number of people. And big movies like this can choose to represent those sorts of relationships to give a more realistic look at romance and how it actually exists in the real world, as opposed to the more narrow, traditional, norms that have been perpetuated in film and television for most of our entertainment history.

    I agree with your statement that forcing anything to send a message at the cost of story should not be the concern of the film makers. But, if in creating the story, the writers determine that for story purposes, a non-traditional relationship were to work, I'd be all for it. Why not? If the story works and it can bring more wide exposure to something that has been forced into the shadows in entertainment for so long, its a win-win.
     
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    1. Leia: I love you.
    Han: I love Luke.

    2. Never really thought about the master/Padawan relationship that way before....
     
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    What about a possible love triangle with Ridley's character, and Boyega and Isaac? They could actually do the triangle this time without one of them turning out to be Ridley's brother at least.

    They can do that all they want. I just want Gleeson to be Luke's son so the Skywalker name carries on. My eye's on that guy.
     
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    Gleeson confuses me. It seems like he would be related to someone, but physically he only makes sense to be related to Luke or Obi-Wan.

    I'm starting to think he may be a Kenobi descendent as that would certainly be interesting to see Luke train his master's grandson/nephew. Definitely fits into the whole mirroring theme.
     
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