SPECULATION OFFICIAL Finn Discussion Thread

I only took notes about two characters, it was pretty tedious and exhausting. I doubt anyone has more than Rey's screen time which (due to rounding to the nearest seconds) clocked in at ~45 minutes.

 

Oh ok, I thought you did it with some sort of program that was quick

 

Ok I was going to try to post a picture, but I can't. I assume it's because I have allowed technology to pass me by and now, unable to hotlink, I have no photo to show you... and here we are. Instead I will describe it to you. There is a picture of Finn's bloody hand print mask on Instagram right now...


I thought the caption was VERY telling.

Spoiler

Finn's awakening... hmmm... awakened to what? What is everyone awakening to in this movie? Could it be...

Maybe...

The Force?

 

http://www.starwars.com/databank/finn

 

HA! I didn't see that. However in the novelization it seemed pretty clear that Finn was already in touch with his conscience. But good catch on that excerpt.

I'm still voting "Force".

 

Yeah he had been sent to reconditioning before too .

 

Are you talking about this picture?

 

Yeah I was

 

or... after seeing what happened on Jakku his eyes were opened to the fact that his boss and co. are a bunch of mass murdering lunatics that will do everything possible to get what they want and that isn't something he wants to spend his life doing. Just sayin.

 

I actually haven't ruled out that they both didn't happen. Like he could have had a philosophical and physiologically awakening but we wouldn't be able to distinguish one from the other. That all said, I definitely think there was a conscious awakening and it was evidenced by his refusal to fire on the villagers. I don't think anyone can argue to the otherwise. But I think he was awakened also when he received that bloody hand print on his mask... and that didn't really have anything to do with the moral bankruptcy of his superior officers but the trauma of seeing his friend cut down. That's why it was interesting to me that they would associate the image most closely associated with that event, with the word, "awakening".

 

They should have elaborated note on that Jakku scene.

I wouldn't have minded Finn being non-FS had he been portrayed has a highly trained killer with a lot of blood on his hands, who has an 'awakening'. But in the movie he's a bumbling guy who cracks jokes. Really?

You could say Finn is the new Peeta. Docile, less competent than the female lead, but has a heart of gold. Still, there are differences of course.

-Peeta gets the love and affection of the female lead right in the first movie. Finn doesn't, cause he's a black guy.

-Peeta gets the girl in the end. Finn probably won't, cause he's a black guy. They might give him a black woman, how original...


I don't care about romance in Star Wars, but since this guy didn't get a single 'win' in the movie, I'm forced to look in this direction.

A stormtrooper defecting, it was something unique but they just brushed it aside.

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http://uk.ign.com/articles/2016/08/12/john-boyega-loves-this-finn-cosplayer

 

Finn won't be force sensitive outside of tertiary material.

They've made clear the kind of story they're going for. Finn is the comic relief while Rey is the badass action hero. They aren't going to do anything that jeopardises that set up.

 

I wouldn't say "goofball" necessarily...but his story felt, as I've said before, too much like a typical "Disney Channel" character with his dialogue...or at least his line delivery...as of TFA, his character arc feels pretty much up in the air as in it's neither finished or expanded upon and that's why people might think single-minded about calling him a "goofball.."

 

Finn needs the force?

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both characters are in tandem with each other.

 

I don't think it should be doubted that they will do something with Finn but more of a question as to whether they will do something good with him. However, that's a matter of personal taste and preference so it would be pointless to argue over what we would all deem as good.

I do sympathise with many who don't think Finn will maintain the same presence in the rest of the trilogy as he did in TFA (regardless of whether it was comic or grave) as it is hard not to look at where both Finn and Rey are now in the story and hold to the belief that they will hold the same focus going forward.

 

i feel like Rey, Finn, and Kylo Ren were all given the same "treatment" in TFA.
they are introduced in masks, their arcs are all profoundly jarring, each has a call to action, and each ends in a place of utter uncertainty.

i feel they will remain a triumverate of some kind going forward.
i think people overestimate Luke's role in the next film.
the legacy characters will continue to support the new heroes, but it's the new heroes who will carry the film.

 

im not seeing Episode VIII on opening night. I'll wait and hear about how Finn's presented first, before spending money on it. Same thing with Episode IX