Official Finn Episode VIII thread

You are officially into the territory the mods specifically asked people to not go. I'd suggest editing the post.

 

Just trying to give the lad a heads up. But I understand

 

It's a moot point anyway. More than likely Finn will get with Rose.

If not VIII then in IX.

 

I think that there is a lot of assignment of motives that express as much or more bias in these types of cases. More than just hanging accusation it assumes conspiracy.

 

No, Palpatine won. He blasted Yoda off the sled, a hit/fall that hurt Yoda tot he point that he had to run away. Palpatine LET macet get the better of him - and who ended up with 1 arm splatted on the ground?

TFA advertisments never tells you Finn is Jedi, it tells you Finn uses a lightsaber. If you ASSUME that means he is a Jedi that on you. And as I pointed out, unless you believe Rey (or a woman in general) is a "inferior" version of that.........you weren't bait and switched. You got what was advertised, and you weren't sold something inferior once you got there. You posted the definition, you know that isn't what happened.

ANd on this - only Jedi use Lightsabers - argument. Remember when Sacha Baron Cohen madet his joke at the Oscars? - "How come," he asked, "there is no Oscra [sic] for them very hard-working little yellow people with tiny dongs? You know — the Minions." - some people got upset that he was joking about asian people, but read the joke again. He wasn't. He was taking advantage of the fact that the audience would jump to a racist conclusion before he got to the actual conclusion, which created the punch line. Cohen just described Minions, if you found the joke racist its because YOU assumed and thought of the racist punch-line. Same with Finn. They showed us someone with a lightsaber, knowing what most people would ASSUME about that, but thats YOUR assumption. You brought that to the table, not Lucasfilm. A bait and switch needs overt advertising, they didn't do that.

Pfffft - what does he know about the character and movie. The look to the sky man, the look to the sky.

 

Yeah I found that fiahy too. I mean sure it's a show about nerds, but everyone else gets a woman except Raj. They had to make the only non-white guy in the group extra pathetic? Also notice how there's no black guy among the group. As if black people can't be intelligent.

They basically want to promote the idea that PoC women should be with white men. That's why they make the PoC man stupid and the woman desirable. For example the Walking Dead - All black guy were weak, but Michonne was super strong and ends up with a white guy. In the new Spiderman movie they have a black girl with Peter. And of course Asian women have been fetishised and the men have been depicted as pathetic nerds. Weaken the men and take their women..classic strategy.


Anyway let's not talk about this since the mods warned us. Just know that there's a new type of racism going on.


At this point I don't really want Finn to be with Rose. Nothing against the Rose actor but it just wouldn't feel natural to pair him with a random new character introduced in the second movie. And if Reylo happens...that'll be the ultimate insult to Finn and his fans.

 

having not seen the movie or even clips of Finn, Rose or them together in a trailer yet, it doesn't seem to early to make this judgement at all. Good call.

 

We'll just have to wait and see. Because right now, we don't have any leaks that Rey and Finn meet back up in this movie.

 

There certainly is a new type of racism. Apparently its okay to assign hateful motives to writers and producers based purely subjective measures. This might be interesting if it was a good context for such a discussion. It would be compelling if you had things beyond purely subjective measures and had some evidence to accuse film makers of frankly henious things. Not only again does it rely on conspiracy to be believed but assumes no other motives in play.

 

I think this is a fascinating look at Hollywood culture, I don't give out likes often, but I thoroughly respect your perspective. I do not watch Big Bang Theory (it's despicable), but I find your assessment challenging toward the status quo.

This hasn't really been a thread I've felt compelled to post in, since I thought Finn was handled poorly in The Force Awakens, but your angle on this just fascinates me and not one I really considered. It's like when Lupita was initially cast in The Force Awakens it was heavily rumored she was going to be Finn's love interest, but we don't even get a black woman, she ended up wasted as a cheap knock-off for Yoda. I still feel that was an incoherent cast decision.

 

Lupita is a beautiful women, and the Star Wars team should have taken advantage of that. They could have gotten anyone to play Maz. The girl playing Rose is cute, but she ain't no Lupita Nyongo. We fell for Leia, because she was the only woman in the original trilogy. We'll see if we hear arguments from boys over who they thought was the prettiest girl in this Star Wars trilogy. As of right now Rey doesn't have any competition.

 

this would be the kind of racism where a character is written without a specific race in mind, and when a black actor is cast the character is treated the same he would have if they had cast a white actor? How terrible of them to write the character without considering the colour of his skin.

 

How is that racist in case of roles which don't require any specific cultural or racial background, like the role of Finn?

 

satire

 

Stage Plays get trailers?
That said seems a shame LF and KK seems to want to waste such talent doing comic relief and failing in combat.

Let me 2nd or 3rd or 4th or whatever whoever said Patty Jenkins and I cant believe I am saying this WB understood how to deliver a movie even though the Women was far more powerful...then the Man. Somehow their male lead wasnt constantly shown up skill wise and forced to carry most of the comedy baggage.

Too late for RJ but CT, KK and LF could stand to take some notes.

 

Just as a reminder - this is the film that made Abrams interested in Boyega in the first place.

 

Finn was the best shot in the movie and he is good at getting people to go along with whatever he says.