Official Leia Organa Episode VIII Discussion Thread

i wonder about this too. but clearly she wasn't able to communicate with Luke (distance? reluctance?). since we don't know how these empathic bonds work, it would be cool to get some parameters from the ST. she was able to connect when Luke reached out to her in ESB and you would think she would have that same connection/ability with her own child (unless he's cut it off or rejected it somehow).

i tend to reject the popular head canon that Force-users can just easily rifle through people's thoughts at will. it didn't seem easy in TFA when there was resistance, and this seems like a distinct skill from planting post-hypnotic suggestions. while it would serve Leia to be able to read other people (given her political power), i just don't see her doing it.

if she was compelled or someone reached out to her, though, i can see her receiving and responding. so maybe it just depends on the willingness.

we don't know that he's not, right?

this is a great find! i love that the artist paid attention to this detail and made this cool callback.

 

True. My theory is that secretly he loves flying but wanted to keep that secret since he thinks it makes him more a Solo than a Skywalker. And I don't think he knows about his grandpa flying over the Battle of Naboo when he was 9, or his grandma flying as a decoy before TCW. He might not know either about his mother flying along Poe's mom and the Queen of Naboo to fight Operation Cinder. And then we could say: "But what about Uncle Luke? He is a gifted pilot too!" Yes, but at the moment Ben is growing maybe Uncle Luke is more focused in his Jedi Academy than flying X-wings anymore.

Hope he shows his true flying nature.

I know. I noticed that while watching the movie and I thought: "wait a minute... Leia was wearing the same outfit at Shattered Empire # 3!"

 

the films have shown so little of Leia piloting as a "thing" ~ just the Falcon in ESB at the end and the speeder in ROTJ. but i do think that's an interesting observation that Ben might disdain it since it was his father's "job". he might think he's got more "elevated" concerns (as Vader did, ultimately, and as Luke did throughout the OT).

i'm of mixed mind about seeing Leia doing more FS stuff, but it might be interesting to see if she will resort to it out of necessity in dealing with her son. i wonder if we'll see (in Bloodline perhaps), that she might regret not having invested more time in the Force given it might have made a difference for her as a mother?

 

I am afraid Leia sees her FS linked towards accepting Anakin Skywalker as a father, since she is adamant in seeing him as Vader. So I daresay she didn't develop her FS - based in so far what I've read and heard. She might realise coming to terms with her inheritance would have given different outcomes. OMG I already tearing by the thought of that.

 

yeah, this is where i just have a really hard time with whatever the heck's been going on in these people's heads for the last 30 years ~ hahaha

 

It does not help that I was listening to this while reading that article:

Thanks for sharing!

 

The man tortured her more than once. It was a great disservice to her character to have just dropped it in ROTJ and not really dealt with it.

 

Oh wow, I just realized that Leia is wearing the same flight suit as Padme!

 

Agree. I reckon that was the problem of making her Luke's sister in ROTJ and not following through by making the most of that. In the end, it adds a little extra weight to the final confrontation between Luke, Vader and the Emperor, but it also widens the focus to be both Skywalker kids (the Skywalker family, not just son vs Dad). We all know that Leia has had five onscreen confrontations with Vader, and even without knowing he is her father, that invests her character in wanting some sort of resolution or revenge - she's no Jedi, so that thing of "revenge is not the Jedi way" does not apply to her lol. Why should Luke be the only one to have the right to confront Vader as a father?

1. Leia had her witty interaction with Vader when she was originally captured on the Tantive IV.
2. She was tortured by Vader personally aboard the Death Star.
3. Vader took her to Tarkin and held her to make her watch the destruction of millions of people (including adoptive family and friends) in orbit of Alderaan.
4. Vader had dinner with Han and Leia on Bespin (though, we never see them eat, so in all likelihood there was no real conversation, and perhaps no one even sat down).
5. Leia was forced to watch as her loved one was potentially killed while being frozen in carbonite.

#3 and #4 are the most personal of all these moments that Vader and Leia shared, and it is arguable that though Luke’s hand was chopped off by his dad, Leia has a better claim to a final confrontation. So when Lucas decided she would be Luke’s sister, he could have AT LEAST had both Luke AND Leia wind up in the Throne Room scene for the film and trilogy’s climax. Instead, Leia is either so dedicated to her responsibility to the Rebellion, or more likely her attachment to Han Solo, that her connection to Vader is left loose.

Like they said in BMS:

 

Carrie Fisher arriving to the White House Correspondents Dinner 2016 with Tom Hiddleston:



According to Claudia Gray, her mental casting for Ransolm Casterfo in Bloodline was Tom Hiddleston. She made a comment on Twitter:

 

I think a brief combat. Leia will look at Kylo with her hand out and say "Ben I am your mother!"

 

Cool, it seems she is going back to Pinewood.

BTW, a good interview with the author of "Bloodline" (mild spoilers):

http://www.ew.com/article/2016/05/0...a?xid=entertainment-weekly_socialflow_twitter

 

Maybe Snoke was still barely a thing so wasn't considered such a direct credible threat?

 

it's entirely possible (and most definitely probable) that Leia didn't know about Snoke until after Ben turned.

t'll be interesting to see how she found out.
through Luke? Lor San Tekka? late in the game when Snoke was revealed to be the power behind the FO? Somehow through Ben/Kylo Ren himself?

 

Lol just noticed your signature lol #SaveBenSolo

 

After reading (or rather listening to) Bloodline, I'm even more interested in the development of Leia and Kylo's relationship in VIII and IX.

There's a moment in the book when Leia feels helpless to help someone she cares about which provokes her anger (trying to be vague for those who haven't read Bloodline yet). That in turn prompts Leia to consider her father Anakin Skywalker and his fall to the dark side. As she reflects on her own anger, Leia wonders if her father's fall began in a "better place" as she puts it.

As we learned in TFA, Leia clearly blames Snoke for manipulating and deceiving Ben and still believes that there is light in her son. Perhaps she even feels that Ben's fall began in a better place like Anakin's, which may be a part of why she still has hope that Ben can be turned back. Hopefully they'll develop Leia and Kylo's relationship though out the ST and ancillary materials (novels, comics, etc.)