Official Luke Skywalker Episode VIII Discussion Thread

I'd rather have the Luke of The Thrawn Trilogy over the ST Luke.
Luke(s) rated.
OT Luke > Bantam Luke > DNT Luke > FOTJ Luke > LOTF Luke > NJO Luke > ST Luke.

 

You prefer the Luke character that wonders about repeating quotes of the Jedi of yore? "Trust in the Force", this and "Feel, don't think", that? Making the right choice every time? Being more powerful than anyone, removing any new hero's agency and dispelling any potential new threat?

Dull as dishwater, if you ask me.

*Watto voice* "I need something more real!".

Indeed.

Luke is wise old perfect master: check.
Luke trains his Jedi in the old Yavin temple: check.
Luke sends his pupils off into great danger and avoids the action himself: check.

 

So is sounds like the talking points have gone out, ROTJ Luke was "boring". Got it. He needed to be subverted to be interesting. Otherwise you get Old Ben in ANH... and my God was he ever boring.

 

Yeah lol . He also always wears his special cat suit.

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No ROTJ Luke wasn't boring. It was post-ROTJ luke - the resolved hippie Luke that was boring.

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He did end up with a 90s redhead. She wanted to assasinate him but they ended up making babies. Whenever Luke wasn't mindprobing Leia his mind was probably on her.............I'd hope.

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That Luke is one and the same. He doesn't change in those series. Seriously

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He's not a retcon.

 

No Batam Luke was all hand on. He was not afraid of doing stuff on his own, had useful allies. Trained student well.
DNT Luke: Got off the couch and showed everyone who's boss. *Die Useless Mary Sue Jaina die*
FOTJ Luke: exiled so forced hand on at Daala's orders, but still was useful. Powerful enough to kill many Abeloth's avatars.
LOTF Luke: Getting kind of useless, let his wife die (not directly responsible, but did nothing to prevent it).
NJO Luke: In the EU, the most useless Luke ever. Sent his child soldier/jedi students to war while he and his wife hid under a rock and complain to everyone that he might be attracted to the Dark Side. Forbid adult jedi to war because of Dark Side.
ST Luke: Don't need to say anything except that EU NJO Luke is better by a nose because NJO Luke didn't actively try to kill his students.

Edit:
I just realized that generally speaking, after Bantam Luke, Luke in fiction deteriorated with every series. I'm so depressed.

 

I love the impatient Luke from ESB. I'm annoyed by the ANH Luke. I'm intrigued by the ROTJ luke. I'm obsessed with the TLJ Luke. But the best Luke is definitely the one in ROTS.

 

http://www.lepoint.fr/pop-culture/c...e-sens-prisonnier-20-04-2018-2212166_2923.php (April 20, 2018)

 

Must be tiresome the promotional campaigns for the movie, in every interview Mark was almost out of breath, and he has to deal with a lot of people, fans, executives, interviewers etc

 

I know the movie has been out a while, but I need a place to unload a few thoughts so I can finally move on with my life.

Those who are upset over Luke's character should put at least some of the blame on Abrams and Kasdan. It was them who put Luke into exile in the first place. In TFA it was established that Luke's new Jedi order went fell apart, that he felt responsible, and that he walked away from it all. It is in TFA that we have a Luke who has abandoned his friends and sister in a time of crisis. Rian Johnson inherited Luke in such a state. I am curious about what most fans expected Luke to be like given what TFA had already established.

While a reluctant Luke was already given to us in the previous film, Rian Johnson gave us a redemption story for Luke. That's the part of the movie that stands out to me more. Luke's final heroic act in the movie's climax was beautiful in my opinion. I guess this was too little too late for a lot of fans, but I dug it. I think Luke standing against Kylo and the First Order had much more weight to it being at the end of film when all hope seemed lost. A Superman-like Luke from the get-go would not have had the same dramatic impact. I agree with Mark Hamill who said Luke had a great intro in TFA and a great exit in TLJ.

I would also like to point out that Luke was more than just a grumpy old man saying "Get off my island." He was a man who had grown much more knowledgeable about the force and the Jedi. His understanding grew more expansive. He demonstrates this in the first lesson to Rey as he teaches her about universality of the force. He was thinking more about the big picture. His problem, as Yoda points out, was not focusing the need in front of nose .

And I'm fine with Luke dying. I knew it would happen. The old characters must pass on so the new characters can go their own way.

 

Luke was originally floating bolders fully connected to the force when he had Rey meeting him. It was Rian who retconned his cut off depression. JJ clearly had other plans. It's not JJ's fault Rian went the isolated depressed route.

 

Why would Luke be standing on island levitating boulders instead of helping his friends fight the First Order.

 

Would have to have read JJ's treatment that RJ threw out. I can't answer that because am not privy to that information. I wish I could but can't.

 

P03 Rian asked no force involvement there with the rocks, because it wouldnt make sense that he had not felt Han's death through the force. Like in the interviews says there is a general plot line in th sequel trilogy that every director has to follow, but the way that they have to follow it, is in the director decision. J.J and Rian talked about the ideas of episode 8, so is not like he worked by himself and re-write everything by himself without the approval of J.J, since he still had involvement with episode 8

 

I understand why the scene was removed but was still originally written in. Mark even stated that the ending didn't make sense and the scene changed. I am fully understand why the change was necessary in context. I have never said anything other. If Luke was lifting rocks he's connected and obviously he's not connected in TLJ. The change in was facilitated to show exactly that. So yeah duh. There it is a change to the original scene. You can't deny that Rian changed that because well he did. That was why there reshoots on Skellig the back end of 2015.

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Sorry if my last post sounded rude. Am a bit grotty due to hayfever. Sorry xx

 

Another vote for Thrawn Trilogy Luke. They had a great story right in their hands.

They could have at least lifted elements from it. The finally was excellent as well, would have loved to have seen that on screen..

 

The actors were too old for that, in my opinion

 

Whether you liked the movie or not...and interprets Hamills later comments either way...this clip is sad to watch. Rian's laughter is heard in the background here, but nobody laughed in the cinema when I saw TLJ.

 

Mark laughs as well but the clip is cut in such a way that it's not shown.

 

Ah, suspected it might be a little edited to show the worst parts. Alas, will never get the DVD for TLJ to watch the whole scene ;-)

 

RE: Luke (w/ Luke's death) vs. Kylo on Crait: When was it added

Luke and Kylo Ren looked like some hastily put together blue screen fight.

The Hollywood Reporter - Mark Hamill Shaves 'Star Wars: Episode VIII' Beard (But Teases It Will Be Back)

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/mark-hamill-shaves-star-wars-924278 (August 2016)



Hamill ditched the beard...but then in 2017 he had it again as seen at Celebration 2017.

https://www.starwarsnewsnet.com/201...m-plans-for-a-crait-luke-figure-and-more.html

I think they didn't know that and some other stuff because things change late in post-production with additional filming and reshoots and the figures and merch has a long lead time.