Official Luke Skywalker: The Force Awakens Thread

I've never thought about the scene being this way. But it makes a lot of sense.

From rumors though (just rumors, not fact), Han's body is left at Star Killer base. The other thing is we've had BB-8 associated with Rey. It'd be a bit more surprising if R2 is her true companion by the end of the film, but definitely possible if visiting Luke.

 

I'm not really married to the idea or anything, but I have always felt like the cyborg in teaser two didn't feel quite right as Luke... The different cybernetic arm, how thin and feminine it looks, and the cloak color being so different from the recent leaked image of Luke just adds to that uneasy feeling.

So I started thinking, who else could it be? I thought of Kylo, but it makes even less sense that R2 would be with him, unless he is impersonating Luke and R2 can't tell... highly unlikely. So I thought, who else would be at a funeral pyre (if that's what it is), in such a cloak, mourning the death of Han Solo? I suppose it could be Leia, but I don't see her losing a limb, and I think the behind the scenes clip showed her with both arms. To me it really points to Rey.

I grant you the points you make, but I have a really hard time believing anyone would leave Han's dead body behind, especially Chewie. After all, if Luke can drag Vader's corpse off the about-to-explode Death Star, they can figure out a way to get a real hero like Han Solo out to give him a proper burial. As for BB8 rather than R2 belonging with Rey, I would say three things: First, we now have confirmation from the recent figure leaks that BB8 belongs to Poe Dameron. Second, it might make sense for R2 to be with Rey if she is going to now travel to meet Luke, taking R2 to him. Finally, BB8 won't be able to roll and climb all the steps on Skellig Michael.

At the end of the day, it is likely Luke, even if played by the rumored "Young Original Warrior," there will be costume changes, and an explanation for the different looking cybernetic hand, including the idea that it is in the flashback... but I think it is fun to think of other theories, as improbable as they may be. Thanks for humoring me...

 

Wasn't the skin shot off on Tatooine in the ROTJ film from Jabbas Sail Barge....and so he wore the glove the rest of the movie so I guess it could be taken anytime after that...

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BB-8 also comes with Rey in the Black series 6 inch figure so she also belongs to her at some point.

 

If there is a flashback/vision of the past, its purpose is clearly going to be to reveal *something we don't know* rather than *something we know already*... so the 30-year period between ROTJ and TFA is obviously the period we are interested in...

 

Yes I think it is probably a flashback from the 30 missing years since he doesn't have the new robes on. And hopefully not only his second scene in the movie. I have a feeling we maybe don't even see his face in the movie in this scene.

 

Yes, but the back of the packaging for that Black Series figure, describes BB8 as follow: "BB8 is the spherical, loyal Astromech Droid of the Resistance pilot Poe Dameron"

You have to zoom in on the picture of the back of the package to read it, but it is there....

 

To the best of my knowledge, yes... now, I am not 100% on the 4th, that is just my belief from the what I have seen and what I think I know...

It's Luke...

I don't know if Solo dies... even if the scene that MSW reported is 100%% accurate (and the nature of the business is that nothing, short of evidence, is taken as 100%) what the spoiler who gave them the information said was, "Han goes down hard, and is not seen from again" That he is dead was speculation based on that.

His hand was hit, I do not think all the skin was shot off... however, that being said... fair point

You may see a scene you thought you knew, but with some element that was unknown at the time

 

I agree you may, and I've even speculated along those lines with regards to the nature of the opening shot, as we understand it, recently.
But I don't think Luke with Artoo in Teaser 2 fits that bill.

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Maybe Luke is in this scene where a drop-ship full of First Order troops descends on the planet Jakku.


Maybe Luke is on Jakku as the drop ship lands and troopers proceed to burn down dwellings and murder innocent villagers as Kylo Ren arrives in pursuit of a particular item the locals are in possession of, and Finn experiences a moment of conscience.


Maybe Luke is present when Max Von Sydow's character is murdered by Kylo Ren. Maybe Luke is around when Poe Dameron sends BB-8 away, custodian of the important artifact, and is subsequently captured by the First Order. Maybe Luke is in the scene where the troops return to the Star Destroyer above Jakku and Finn reflects on the repercussions of the events he has just been involved in.


Maybe Luke is in the scene where we are introduced to Rey's character on Jakku, as she scavenges for junk and heads out to the local salvage station to sell on what she has recovered.


Maybe Luke is in the scene where Poe Dameron is escorted to the detention level on the First Order Star Destroyer. Maybe Luke is there as Finn and Poe make a bid for freedom by stealing a TIE Fighter and blasting their way from the hangar, before being gunned down and crash landing back on Jakku.


Maybe Luke is present when Finn regains consciousness and returns to the wrecked TIE. Maybe Luke is on the Star Destroyer as General Hux and Captain Phasma identify their quarry and put plans in motion to retrieve the oh-so-important item that could now be in the possession of a runaway Stormtrooper, a Resistance pilot and his droid.


Maybe Luke is around when we see Rey's makeshift home, as she discovers BB-8 has been snared by a fellow scrap trader and releases the droid from his captor.


Maybe Luke is in the scenes where Rey takes the droid to the salvage station and is set upon by junkyard thugs. Maybe Luke is there when Finn encounters the commotion and helps Rey out, just as the First Order forces close in on their target, forcing Finn and Rey to make a sharp exit and seek transportation off the planet.


Maybe Luke is on the Falcon as Rey and Finn commandeer it and blast away from the Jakku vehicle lot with TIE fighters in pursuit, evading them by weaving through the interior of a Super Star Destroyer wreckage and eventually away from the desert planet.


Maybe Luke witnesses Kylo Ren's monologue with the charred remains of Darth Vader's helmet in his personal quarters onboard the Star Destroyer. Maybe Luke is there when the Falcon is eventually pulled in by a giant freighter and Han and Chewbacca are reunited with their old ship. Maybe Luke is around as our heroes become embroiled in some kind of turf war between rival pirate gangs onboard the freighter, eventually heading out in the Falcon once again.


Maybe Luke is in the scenes where our intrepid band seek out Maz Kanata and enter her pirate castle full of unsavoury characters. Maybe at this point in the movie we are setting up the final act, and maybe now it is time for the audience to understand why the item everyone has been seeking is so important through some necessary exposition explaining events leading up to where we joined the movie. (Hey, is that really Luke? That kind of looks a bit like it could be: Flashback: Exterior Dusk at the Academy – It is noted it is peaceful now. Artoo-Detoo is saddened as his master departs.)
Maybe Luke is there as Maz's castle is destroyed by the First Order as their forces close in on our heroes once again.


Maybe Luke is at the Resistance base as we are reintroduced to General Leia and a few other familiar faces, as well as some new freedom fighters.


Maybe Luke is present as the destiny of a certain lightsaber is decided and a strategy is drawn up to overcome the threat of the First Order's super weapon.


Maybe Luke is involved in the final climactic assault on Starkiller Base.


Maybe Luke turns up and duels with Kylo Ren in a forest. Awesome! Maybe the character arcs that have been set in motion and the fact that our new heroes have just inherited an ancient weapon from a more civilized age were all a bit irrelevant because Luke just swoops in and saves the day anyway. And then they all just head over to the Jedi monastery to chew the fat with Skywalker The White... THE END





Obviously I'm being a bit tongue-in-cheek there. But the point I am getting at is this:
One shot of Luke, two shots of Luke, three, four - it doesn't really make any difference. He is still just going to be floating around there in little scenes of his own where he has little or no interaction with anyone or any influence on what they are doing (outside of the bigger picture that he is clearly a motivation behind everything everyone else is doing in a general sense).
He's shown in Maz's vision of the past. Rey goes to meet him at the very end of the movie.
If he's in another scene, it is pretty clear it is just going to be, essentially, him existing in a bubble outside of the action everyone else is involved in.

 

Wow! That was a great pic of Luke, yesterday!!! It also showed how unimaginative the old eu had become, lately. I always wondered why Luke didn't have aged very much in Star Wars Invasion and other Darkhorse Comics and on Novel Covers...

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Wow! That was a great pic of Luke, yesterday!!! It also showed how unimaginative the old eu had become, lately. I always wondered why Luke didn't have aged very much in Star Wars Invasion and other Darkhorse Comics and on Novel Covers...

 

Why do I have the feeling that it may go that way:

Kylo Ren poses as Darth Vader's son.
It is believed that Luke Skywalker sides now with The First Order...
Rey was part of a clan that got decimated (including her parents)... what she believes... by Luke Skywalker and his acolytes.
The clan was probably sheltering Luke's Jedi learners, including Force sensitive and very young Rey.

What she (and we) learn with Maz is that Kylo Ren was Luke's apprentice and Leia and Han's son. He turned against the other apprentices and killed them and the clan protecting them. When Luke comes back, he sees what happened and go into exile, convinced he failed as a master, not knowing Rey somehow survived. That's the scene from the trailer, Luke being played by a different actor in a flashback scene.

The Luke we see at the end of the movie is an older Luke, willing to complete Rey's training.

 

It's something I keep coming back to in my head, at least something along those lines.
I don't think Kylo would even have to pose as Luke - Rey is still going to have a resentment to *anyone* waving a lightsaber around in those circumstances.

I think an alternative scenario in the same vein is that Luke is not necessarily "in exile" at all - whatever went down in the past was important enough to drive a wedge between Leia, Han and Luke, and they all just went their separate ways. And the events of TFA eventually bring all three of them back into the Star Wars story.
Let's presume - in general terms - there was a tragedy of some description:
Flashback: Interior Night at Academy – Dead bodies are on the ground. Luke turns up.
Related or otherwise, this is also described:
Flashback: Exterior Night Battlefield – Fierce battle! Sword is being use by the CLAN against THE SEVEN.
In the end, the specifics don't matter. Those could be two separate events in the flashback, they could be the same disaster from two different points of view - even without knowing the specifics, you can draw a general conclusion that there may be a logic that says the Force is always going to attract trouble, whatever your intentions. Jedi attract resentment. Or attract Sith. Or potentially become Sith.
Maybe after this *event* Leia feels an academy is just a dangerous idea. Maybe Luke and Leia clash over this.

 

@MarsPhoenix! You've returned from the great unknown!

 

Is she a special one here?

 

Is it possible that Luke is watching all the events happening from a distance. As an observer?

 

Here is what this guy says.

Check out @Breznican's Tweet:

 

Interesting indeed...

 

Thanks for this. I still think he was being scanned for a toy or video game in that picture.

 

No, I agree...

Not sure I agree with that, however

A lot depends on the wording... "Kylo pretending to be Luke" and "Kyle pretending to be Vader's son" are pretty similar... but miles and miles apart.

The galaxy at large doesn't know the truth... that Vader was once Anakin, that Luke is his son... and that Leia is his sister. Someone hearing that Kylo was posing as Vader's son could easily get that turned around to him pretending to be Luke. Were that to come into question, then the battle of Bespin, where Vader reveals the truth, would suddenly be of far greater importance, as it would be proof that Luke, and not Kylo, was the true heir... and the saber, having belonged to Anakin, having been passed to Luke, would suddenly have great importance.

I would have a hard time believing that he is just on the sidelines watching... doing Zorro raids, on the other hand, would be more his style...

Well... not for nothing... the Leia/general image that floated around was a rendered image... it wasn't the actress herself, so she was scanned... what for, that remains to be seen, but more than likely all the characters would have been.

That being said,... promo shot

 

Yes, but this was already what we suspected; BB-8 starts as Poe's droid, then escapes when he's captured and becomes Rey's companion for much of the movie. It's up in the air if BB-8 goes with Rey or Poe in the end, but we know she'll have two "masters" regardless.

 

Lol Yes, the mouse itself kept me away from these boards (jokin).
NIce to see you!