REYLO - Potential Evidence For & Against

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How could he break it of himself? While on his face?

 

Who is saying the mask is on his face? He could smash it after/during his training with Snoke. He could use the force.

 

I feel like Rey actually shagging Ren would be like Sarah shagging Jareth in Labyrinth.

Just weird and awkward.

 

Dunno. It was a presumption since masks are normaly worn on the head. But you have a point there cuz Ren obviously likes to keep his in the piles of ashes of his enemies

 

He's a broken man like Luke, and she will likely be the one who helps him become who he once was (like Luke).

If Rey turns dark and joins him because he seduced her.

What's negative about it is how certain people who ship characters behave. It's fine to like or want to see your fav characters hook up, but when it becomes a constant debate, with fighting and personal attacks, "shippers" come across as pretty pathetic.

She is uncomfortable and overwhelmed from both the invasion into her mind and feeling the Force for the first time. She is not in pain like Poe was, and I think her tears were more from fear than anything else. She is not comfortable with touch. Telling Finn to stop taking her hand, or pushing his hands off her waist for example. She is not used to touch of any kind, and this was something beyond just taking her hand or holding her waist.

 

wrong power dynamic, though. Sarah and the Goblin King aren't really on the same plane, no?
it would be more like an Uru shagging a Skeksis. or is that somehow incest?
i mean, they would have to be complementary partners, which i think Sarah and Jareth aren't.

in fact, that's actually a great example of the kind of creepy fatal crush that shouldn't be consummated because of its unequal power dynamic. but it's not really Ren Ben and Rey, is it?

 

I think it's very similar in the sense that one is essentially torturing the other and attempting to kill them more or less....but while Labyrinth is an obvious "sexual awakening" for Sarah, Rey/Ren is more or less a fan theorized sexual awakening for Rey where she's falling for a guy who is torturing her and such.

There's really no reason for Sarah/Rey to like or want to be with Jareth/Ren other than....tingly feelings brooding bad boys cause....

 

Kylo Ren and normal. Do you see the mistake?
I don't think he will wear his mask that often in this movie. Thus he smashes it. But are we not getting off topic here, @GreyLo? That's not the Kylo thread. Okay, it kinda is.

 

oh, i get what you're saying. yes, in terms of the current behavior there's no reason for Rey to feel anything but loathing and maybe curiosity about Ren (she's been in his head now and if she know he's Han's son, there's every reason she might want to know or understand more).

but everything is conjecture about what might happen should she come to understand him, if he should turn, if their power dynamic is flipped or levels out, etc.
as it stands, it makes no sense for her to be the least bit attracted to him other than in terms of reflective wonder about the power of the Force.

 

Yep. It's just kind of silly right now.

 

it doesn't bother me. it's an amusing angle and could potentially be a really interesting story if it's done well.
done badly, well, then we get Anakin & Padmé redux ~ hahahaha

 

Kylo Ren and Rey actually mirror Anakin and Padme in TFA strangely enough, but they start off where Anakin/Padme ended in ROTS.

 

It doesn't bother me, it's just silly because right now it's all wish fulfillment and people get soooooo defensive of a fake relationship between two fake people that isn't even a real relationship in their fake world!

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(That's because TFA and ST in general are going to mirror the PT a lot more than people are willing to give it credit for just because it visually cues the OT more)

 

this is kinda what has me thinking ReyBen is a distinct possibility: they may be wanting to "make things right" with that story as with other controversial aspects of reconciling the PT and the now-Legends AU. and again, i don't really have a problem with that if it works. i'd like to see things made right ~ hahaha

right: this is the dark side of the shipping world. some people have no sense of proportion or perspective.

 

Yeah it's like Kylo Ren is returning to Ben, just as Anakin was becoming Vader.

 

I think parents should be rolemodels for their kids not media. But that also doesnt mean kids should be put in safe spaces and glass houses.
A...balance is needed. And good parental guidance.

I agree.
I dont venture tumblr or redit except when a google image search guides me ther for funny gifs but I totally agree with you on shipnazis.
I tried to reason with some trying to make them see that if you do the exact same thing that most antis do (attack those who disagree with you with offenses and condescension) then you are exactly the same and a god damn MF hypocrite.
Luckily most people I know, in this ship cuz i dont know any other, are not such dimwits. Most of them are really smart senisitive and mostly sensible people with higher education levels in literature, theather, creative writing, movie making business and such.
Criticism is a welcome thing. Makes you focys bettr. And makes your argument stronger when you polish them.

Iike this one is?







SW is a fantasy space adventure fairytale. Where miracles happen. Not a thriller/horror/drama.

 

yep, there are good eggs out there ~ and lots of talent that i hope will find other outlets of expression eventually (fanart is awesome, but it's not the end-all). but unfortunately i think the toxic aspects outweigh the positive ones ~ sometimes by sheer dint of the loudness and vehemence with which they express themselves.

it's entirely possible to travel these waters without having to see or deal with the controversies, but the undercurrent is ever-unsettling.

Han and Leia are two people on the same side who have been sparking one another for a film and a half before this happens.
yes, he takes liberties (and she allows it), but they are already in love with each other.

Ren and Rey don't even know each other and she is a prisoner and he is prying information from her, which she does not want to divulge.
nothing here is remotely comparable.

 

For me the issue with the name "Reylo" is, though it's a shipping name, I prefer to use it to describe their connection and what it could mean for his redemption in IX, yet most who hear or see the name think romantic and they act ridiculous about it because of those who did take it too far.

 

Is that GoT?
SW is not GoT

Everything who kylo is and who rey is and who others in their lives are and how they behave towards eachother has a potential influence on reylo relationship, whatever it turns out to be. And it is much the same way on topic of the thread as reylo relationship discussion is in the Kylo thread. However...there, there are some people that don't welcome it so lets not bother them there? We are better than that

Are you not entertained by that?
What else would you do on a date night?

 

Labyrinth: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0091369/

Plenty of other things. More fun things.