Rey's Love Interest?

It's not about the practicality of making a fake scar, it's about the location of it and how annoying it was.

It wasn't to make him "sexy" it was to keep him from looking like the Toxic Avenger.

 

potato, potahto. the point is, it was changed to make him look better.
whether that means sexier, less monstrous, or just, you know, less silly, it was a deliberate choice about his looks--like all the other very deliberate choices they have made about his looks.

however you want to explain it, they took the guy on the left and made him into the guy on the right.
we can parse the motives til the cows come home, but the pictures kinda speak for themselves, i think.



the scar is just another part of that.

 

I don't disagree. Which is why my point was about it not being about sexy. But okay. If you agree on that, I don't know why we are arguing.



Yes. Adam Driver looks different based on the roles he is playing. So do a lot of actors.

Also the clean shaven look is about being boyish and innocent. They tried to make him look more youthful.

 

hahaha ~ we're not arguing. we're clarifying that choices are deliberate and even if the reason for the choice is up for interpretation at the moment, it's not just willy-nilly based on make-up issues. it's about the character.

case in point with Silence (which you pictured there). Driver looks absolutely appalling in that movie. walking death. because suffering is central to that story.
yes, Kylo Ren is made to look young and innocent--i'm just asking you to ask yourself why. and remember, this is a movie for children as well as adults and we already know the character is a killer. it's not just contrast for contrast's sake.

 

Right, I think that we can mostly agree on the scar being moved to make his character more aesthetically pleasing.

Now, I'm merely suggesting the possibility that this was done to make him a more likely love interest for someone (unfortunate as it is, human beings can be despicably shallow organisms).

The exact reasoning behind why Kylo needed to be more pleasing looking is not known by anyone as far as fans are concerned- but we can all have our theories, of course.

 

This is why. They don't want it too distracting or too difficult to recognize actor facial movements...

Because young boys don't kill their father...men do...

--- Double Post Merged, May 1, 2017, Original Post Date: May 1, 2017 ---

Also, I love star wars because we are debating the importance of a fictional scar on a fictional character being moved a few fictional inches.

 

not quite sure what this means.
that we're not supposed to expect him to kill Han?
anyone who didn't see it coming wasn't paying attention ~ hahahaha
not to mention this reveal is timed to happen in the interrogation, not on the bridge.
which means the director wanted us to have an emotional reaction in tandem with Rey.

isn't it the best? hahahaha : D

 

It was supposed to be visually startling. The same way little kids in horror movies are either really creepy or usually have a special shield around them that prevents them from ACTUAL harm.

But when you see a someone who looks very boyish or girlish get hurt or do something bad, it quickly becomes "Oh blast, this just got real"

 

eh...i can see that. i mean, it's definitely the case that his behavior doesn't match that lamby face.
but this brings us right back to the scar:
if he was meant to be evil (and perceived as such), then a glaring ugly scar would make sense
(as @cawatrooper said, the audience is largely made up of people with superficial ideas of beauty).
instead we get a scar not only toned down, but rearranged entirely.
does Ren still need to look lamby for some reason? he's done the most despicable thing he's likely to do (kill his father).
and there's no question that he is a prince under that helmet, even if he is a corrupted one.

so again, i'm just suggesting that it's entirely possible that preserving his good looks is more than just about a potentially distracting bit of makeup.
that's all.

if Ben Solo is coming home, is it better or worse that his mother sees him hideously defaced?
maybe just wounded enough to show that he's suffered?
Rey probably could have chopped his arm/hand off, but they didn't opt for that either.
again, they seem to have wanted him intact for a reason.

 

The first bolded is complete speculation. MSW doesn't know as much about Acts II or III so people have jumped to the conclusion that Rey and Kylo are on Ahch-to that whole time. However, there is no concrete evidence of that. Further, if you look at the teaser, the Falcon appears to be departing Ahch-to, being chased by Ties Which would make sense if Kylo and the FO arrive on Ahch-to. Why would Luke and Rey stay on Ahch-to after being discovered by the FO? They'd be sitting ducks waiting for another attack.

As far as the hut explosion, we see fire in the background of Kylo's shot in the teaser and I assume he and his minions are blowing things up. Which very well could be the "hut explosion" that's got everyone in a tizzy. Further, the exterior shot of the explosion and the interior shot of the hut would not be filmed at the same time or at the same location, so I think there may be some speculation in that rumor if someone was just making an observation or a guess as to the context.

 

Han Solo was 10 years older than Princess Leia.
Kylo Ren/Ben Solo is 10 years older than Rey.

Coincidence? I don't think so! => Reylo confirmed (or not).

 

Leia in ANH = 19 years old, Han in AHN = 29 years old (in Legends, we still don't know his age in the canon).
Rey in TFA = 19 years old, Kylo in TFA = 29 years old.



Coincidence again?

 

It doesn't add much to the conversation but I'd just like to sneak in this little art piece






NOT MADE BY ME! I'll update with the artist's name once I've found them


Edit: I can't believe y'all think this is funny. I've bloody cried over this comic!

 

I wouldn't mind if she has a romance with Finn. Interracial romances in STAR WARS don't bother me. And if that doesn't happen, none at all.

 

I'm for whatever makes Tumblr and 4chan the saddest or nothing at all. I guess that would be Finn and Rey and next Poe and Rey or no one at all (maybe she's a lesbian - we don't know) as Star Wars isn't primarily about romance so perhaps it's better off not dragging a female character down with it. The sexual objectification art and fan fiction with an abusive psycho killer is just worthy of scorn and vomit and nothing more than that.

 

Heavy!

 

I think Reylo is most likely happening even though it wasn't set up that good in TFA.

The Youtuber Vincent Vendetta just posted a very long video about that topic:

 

This thread used to be the funniest one.

But to tell you the truth I'm honestly surprised by the success of Reylo.
And to be more honest I should say that from my point of view instead of success I should have said something else...

However it really surprises me how so many people are so ok with that.

To me, it won't be something romantic, but a bad message to women all around the world.
A dangerous one.
Especially because SW is meant as something child are supposed to watch.
It's not 50 shades of gray.
About what I can only say: I don't blame the author and I really think it's interesting to explore those kind of relationships too.
But I can't stop thinking how the hell a not insame woman could wish for herself something like that.
A woman. Millions it's crazy.

That's all I have to say, and why I said, this thread used to be the funniest one.
I'm afraid I just dropped the bomb.

EDIT: Before any reply, please excuse me if somehow I offended some of you.
That was not the intention.
It's just... I'm surprised how we may have different feelings.

 

But they bother you outside of Star Wars?!

If anyone is offended by someones opinion about a fictional couple then they should have a word with themselves.
Having said that, I disagree with your point. I don't see weakness on behalf of Rey if she loves Ben - I see strength.
Now, if she just falls for him for silly reasons and puts up with the Kylo Ren in him, then yes, you'd have a point.
But if she meets Ben Solo and sees that there is a good person there, then I see nothing wrong with that at all.
We all think Luke is ok for loving his father despite the horrors he committed. Why can't Rey love Ben?
For Star Wars fans, there are a lot of folk out there who seem to have missed the key theme of the series:

Love is the answer to the darkness...

 

Thak you for allow me to explain better my point of view.

I may be naive, but... I'll tell to young ladies: if you see a man killing his father in cold blood and in front of your eyes, please run.
Don't fall in love with him hoping he may change (in real world, it does not happen so often).
If a man bings you in a chair, don't fall in love with him because... he might even beat you but he don't.
Again, I'll say instead: please run.

And that's why I said, I guess it could be a dangerous "message".
Because in real life things tend not to go so easely as in the movies.

However, I agree love may change people.
Love for themself.
Which means: first and foremost to admitt your own problems and try to hill.
It means understand your own mistakes.
How much you hurted people that loved you and that you used to love (your parents, for example)
and others that could have loved you if you were not the person you used to be.

So yes, love is the answer... but it's not easy.
It's not a magic wand.

It's a path, a road, and a difficult one people with problems have to choose to follow... alone
because the answer it's inside you, it's hard to find and it's not given (and it can't be given) by the magic wand of the love of someone else.

People that used to love you, may trust you. May wait for you.
But meanwhile, they must live without feeling guilt for your own choises.

And strength to me, it's that.

It's Luke saying "then my father is truly dead".
Refusing to follow his path.

And there's another detail: Luke did not choose the father the destiny gave him...
I still believe, we - women and men - can choose who to fall in love with.
I don't believe it's Cupid shooting an arrow. It's us.
And that's what I believe it's better to tell to young ladies and young men in the XXI century.