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SPECULATION Rey's return

Discussion in 'General Movie Discussion' started by NinjaRen, Apr 9, 2023.

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Are you excited about Rey's return?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

    13 vote(s)
    37.1%
  1. NinjaRen

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    Funny, I have never seen this marketing that way. For me it was always obvious Rey would become the Jedi character back then.
    But I do hope you are right. I want Rey and the gang to return in full glory. A similar take like "the Heir to the Empire" which featured the OG as main focus, just with the ST characters. But I doubt it.

    Yeah, obviously Rey will be the focus of the upcoming movie, my point is, that her movie will most likely be used to kick start a new set of character stories. Just like the ST did.

    Rey will be the lead, but there will be new characters as lead well. The new characters take over then in future projects.
     
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    I wasn't directly targeting you, although it might seem so, I did not quote you in my post. This issue has gone on for years, I believe Eckstein thought she had a good chance, so much so, she got in shape for the role, but Filoni chose the right actress. I would not have a problem if Eckstein got the role at all, in some ways, I think she deserved it a bit, I believe Filoni took the right route.

    I've never heard anyone say this!!! Wow... she is my favorite character in the series as well, and she reminds me of Kylo Ren.
     
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    Gotcha. I'm sorry if I came across harsh.

    IMO Eckstein wouldn't have fit at all. There are actually only a few cases where the voice actor fits the live action adaptation. Personally I think you should always go for another actor though.

    Totally! I actually made a video for her. There aren't many videos for her on YouTube btw. I guess I've only seen 4-5 in total!!

    I'm kinda bumped we won't get Kenobi season 2. Reva's redemption arc would have been a great story to tell.
     
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    I agree with this, The actor chosen to play Thrawn doesn't look tough enough IMOH, I think his brother would have been a better choice unfortunately, he's in R1, Galen Erso.

    Great Video, I like how Reva is still no match for Vader. Maybe if OB1 trained her further? I was looking forward to season 2, simply because OB1 is my favorite character, the poor reception maybe the reason we won't see another season... hopefully I'm wrong.
     
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    When you've had the opportunity to travel abroad and find yourself become a 'minority,' it's interesting what that can do to your perspective.
    Wow.
    I agree. It seems to me that as I grow older, the world is getting crazier and crazier. But none of us 'normal' people seem to be stepping up and doing anything about it. It's easier to assume somebody else will do something.
    This post snaps me back to Star Wars. :)

    Didn't give Dawson much to work with??!?
    I'm not sure what you were looking for. I thought Filoni's live-action debut of Ahsoka was brilliant in every way. IMO, The Jedi is The Best Episode of the Mandalorian.
     
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    I would have liked to see Jason Isaacs or even Pierce Brosnan (yeah, really) as Thrawn.

    You know I'm not the biggest Mando fan. Maybe that's why. But IMO the best episode is either the first episode of season 1 or the first episode of season 2.

    Btw Mando, do we think Grogu will play a part in the Rey movie? If yes, then I hope he doesn't act like a little child anymore. But I don't want him in that era anyway.
     
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    Jason Isaacs is a great pick, indeed. But in Dave Filoni I trust, looking forward to Thrawn in live action.

    I guess people are getting tired of Grogu's baby talk. He is 50 years old, and doesn't speak in sentences? You might have to time jump to when he's a 150 years old... Rey's new Jedi Order should be fully formed by then and Grogu can lead it.
     
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    Here's a prediction you can take to the bank:

    You will NOT see the character beyond his current Baby Grogu self until after Jon Favreau and Dave Filoni have officially wrapped up The Mandalorian TV series (whenever that is.)
     
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    Daisy Ridley is only 31 and her sequel can't really be compared to the gap between Return of the Jedi and The Force Awakens. We also have Lucasfilm talking about rebuilding the Jedi Order when Rey is a central figure.
    I don't think anyone has argued that, but I highly doubt it's a small role.
    Unless there's a clear plan for Grogu going forward it seems unlikely he'll show up in the future because it could spoil where that story is headed. On the flip side, a new Jedi Order not hung up on attachments would be wise to pick Grogu to lead it.
     
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    Obviously yes. Her role will be huge, at least in the first movie (I hope there are more).

    I actually hope Rey's Jedi Order is all about attachments and leaves the old ways behind. This whole no attachment "nonsense" was one of the reasons Anakin fell to the dark side after all. But LF already set in motion that the next generation of Jedi are more in tune with their emotions.
     
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    I agree this is going to be explored. It's already happening in the High Republic and Rebels. However, I reject 100% blaming attachments for Anakin's selfish downfall. The Jedi rules on attachments didn't cause him to murder all the sand people. Anakin could have quit being a Jedi. He chose fame, power, glory and his own selfish desires over everything else. It's a dangerous point of view to blame his issues on anything but himself.
     
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    That's clearly from the Holiday Special. Just three years late for some reason.
     
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    Don't believe reddit ;)
     
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    Let's have some good-hearted fun and speculate a bit, yeah? :)

    Obviously, we don't know much yet, and what we do know (unless things have changed in the process), is:
    *The film will be set around 15 years after TRoS
    *Rey will be in it in a major way, but could be playing more of a Old Ben/Old Luke supporting role to younger leads
    *It is tentatively referred to as The New Jedi Order, (although that's unlikely to be the actual title - it's probably more of a thematic description)
    *...and that's about it, really (but do let us know if I've forgotten something)

    Recently, Daisy Ridley gave the following quote:
    "I'm very excited. The story is really cool. I'm waiting to read a script because, obviously, I don't have any other updates. It's not what I expected, but I'm very excited."

    The last line here is food for thought... From the very general description, one would expect TNJO to be about Rey gathering/training the next generation (The Order of Skywalker rather than Jedi perhaps?), but a problem arises (Sith again?) and a Star Wars occur. But, if this story is NOT what one would expect, then it won't be that, right? So what then?

    My current thinking is that this movie, meant to potentially expand into its own series/trilogy, might actually be smaller and more confined than we expect. A tight little exploration/quest story, perhaps, full of mythological motifs and dramatic escalations, with a twist/reveal that sets up a potential new threat/era to Star Wars. Such a character driven, action adventure story, steeped in lore and emotion rather than fancy spectacle, might go some way towards mitigating one real issue with filmmaking these days; the ballooning costs the likes of which we have probably not seen since the hight of the 1960s. I think such an approach, a film comparable in scope to say, ANH could be a good way forward for Lucasfilm.

    Another aspect I think very likely, is for TNJO to tie in with the Dawn of the Jedi movie we're getting down the line, giving LFL the opportunity to frame all that has come earlier with a before-and-after narrative that offers not only a new perspective on SW as a whole, but a fresh beginning for the franchise. Perhaps, mythologically speaking, we'll finally move past the Jedi/Sith dualisme and tackle more primeval concepts for SW.

    In short, LFL has an opportunity here to expand the franchise beyond what it was for nearly 50 years, giving it new legs to stand on with fresh perspectives, conflicts, and drama.

    I am quite excited indeed for what's to come!

    What do y'all think? Are there any obvious story beats or dramatic direction that SW will take going forward? Have there been any subtle hints, you think?

    Let's have a nice speculation (without snarkiness and mudslinging) to try and divine what The New Jedi Order could be about :D

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    Most people are probably expecting to see Rey training a new generation of Jedi. But what if she already has? Or what if she hasn't yet? These two situations would be unexpected.


    I would like that. Especially if the Rey movie is introducing new and interesting characters as possible leads for new adventures. Rey could become the new Ben Kenobi for this set of movies.

    I agree. Showing two different approaches of becoming a Jedi in two completely different movies back to back has so much potential. The Rey movie should definitely tease stuff from the "Dawn of the Jedi" movie.

    I think the "first" Rey movie is something smaller compared with the rest of the Skywalker Saga. No all evil threat who's trying to rule the whole galaxy. This is my kind of unexpecting, but needed story telling.
     
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    Good points, @NinjaRen :)

    Personally, I don't think watching a lot of Jedi training would be all that interesting, seeing as Yoda & Luke covered the exposition that you can use such a sequence for in TESB, unless there is new exposition to convey in the Rey movie! Exciting stuff.

    Also, what do we think about Broom Boy? Will he be a character at some point in the future?
    As an aside, I did a quick digging and discovered that the actor, Temirian Blaev, turned 16 about two weeks ago.
     
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    Interesting fact: Broom Boy was actually featured in Colin Trevorror's Episode IX.

    But no, I don't want Broom Boy to be part of this story. He was a symbolic story device for TLJ, and not a set up for another adventure. This isn't Marvel.
     
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