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Rian Johnson to create a new Star Wars trilogy!

Discussion in 'SWNN News Feed' started by Angelman, Nov 9, 2017.

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    I think the timing may be to help keep the hype going for TLJ. There are still gonna be stand alones and I'd be surprised if Obi Wan wasn't one given Ewan's interest and the clamour from the fans
     
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    Yeah I know, it just seems odd. That Hollywood Reporter report has been out for about three months now and it wasn't just "Obi-Wan film to be made". There was a lot of meat to it, including the name of a probable director. Because of that, I was expecting an official statement to be released within days of it. But Lucasfilm still hasn't said anything. Then when they finally do make a new film announcement, it's about a new trilogy that won't be coming until 2021 at the earliest.

    I realize why they did it though, and it says SO MUCH that they had the confidence to announce this prior to TLJ's release. It only makes me that much more excited to go see it.
     
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    TLJ must be a masterpiece, then. I'm definitely hyped.
     
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    I think the info on this will be sparse so not to giveaway any potential spoilers re the ST (Skywalker demise). Likewise, info on the Kenobi film will likely be held back,l if he does have some sort of role in the ST.
     
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    Man, this news made my day.
     
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    agree completely.

    there could also be Director shenanigans going on with the third anthology movie.. even if a Kenobi film is locked down as being the next.
    I suspect that Ron Howard will have been offered his own SW movie to make as a bargaining chip for saving the day with Solo... and that they may wait till they have seen the finished cut before making the choice/announcement. that's just a personal hunch though.. i was surprised he agreed to take over with Solo.

    whatever is going on.. i suspect further info on new trilogy and anthology to be somewhere between none and sparse for a while.
     
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    Once tweeted him a message, if he got the call to do another Star Wars project, would he take it, he must have heard me the forcewitterverse
     
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    Okay, everyome; I hate to be a Debbie downer. I really do; but much as I love this news(HUGE Rian Johnson fan.), I do think it is risky. On one hand, this news showcases that LF has a load of confidence in RJ. Given how we have heard no major problems with the set/ conflicts, this announcement seems to support that. Especially, given the recent string of conflicts with Trevorrow, Lord and Miller, and even Abrams when he made TFA.

    Goes to showcase that SWs will always be plagued with behind the scenes problems. But on the other hand, if TLJ is okay/ sucks, this could be a major backfire. I highly doubt that will be the case as Rian Johnson isn't JJ Abrams in that he is a one-trick pony. Rather, the guy has an immense talent for crafting worlds, characters, and atmosphere. But I do not think it is safe to pop the champagne just now.

    Now, that said, assuming TLJ is a mega-hit what I'd like to see going forward.

    1) No Old Republic, at least not how we know it: This may seem strange as I love KOTOR. It is my favorite SWs story of all time and to me, the magnum opus of the franchise, managing to best the PT and OT. But I really don't need to see it in movie form, at least the story. The world itself is unique enough and I can buy a story set there, like an origin of the Jedi movie, but really I'd like for RJ to avoid it and not be pressured by fans to make it.

    That is assuming he doesn't have a cohesive idea.

    2) Time jump forward: Let's be honest; SWs, the OT, are old movies. We are creeping up on 40 years since ANH's release date. That's a long time. And a common compliant I have heard from those movie fans who see KOTOR and the PT is that they seem to sleek/ new. I never had that issue and I can buy technology getting worse during the OT.

    But let this new trilogy fully distance itself from the prior three. Go way forward into the future: 1,000,2,000, 3,000 years. There was a wonderful comic called SWs legacy that did this and it was utterly fantastic. Because not being a Skywalker Saga is a big deal. It's like doing a Star Trek series without Kirk. I can be done and in turn it should be allowed to make its own legacy.


    3) The Outter Rim: This idea I am also very partail towards. SWs is a vast galaxy. The Unknown regions in the Outer Rim have always been a big unknown factor within SWs, with threats having emerged and within Legends being this Bermuda Triangle area. So why not take advantage of that? Have an entire galaxy hidden within there, with its own factions, societies and Force Sensitives/ users.

    Heck, if LF really wanted to; they could use that galaxy to explain some cool aspects. Like, maybe, for example, assuming that Ahsoka(SPOILER FOR SWS REBELS) is found to be alive; perhaps she wandered to this new galaxy(END SPOILERS). Or some other Jedi. Or just have that galaxy's Jedi Order.

    Either way, regardless if people like these ideas, LF and RJ should take inspiration from Legends and craft their own path; something away from Legends, canon or just our preconceptions. SWs has always had that sense of ambition and willingness to take risks. So let this new trilogy do that.
     
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    Couldn't agree more, It would be so cool to see a live action Old Republic trilogy! I think that's is something they really should consider for the TV-series, so that they can really dive down into the stories and characters. Like the first season could be about the very beginnings of the jedi and sith, then one season about the story of Revan and so on. That would really be a dream come true :D So excited to see what they will decide do!
     
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    That will leave Rian with 4 canonical SW movies...at what point does SW stop being George Lucas "owned" and start being SW fans community owned?

    While TFA departed from any vision that Lucas had it's still mainly dictated by his characters. After Rian's Trilogy and the Skywalker Trilogy has ended, has George Lucas's SW come to an end?
     
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    the dude made every single one of us.... we all spawned from his film making loins (so to speak)

    it will always be GL's Star Wars, and i don't think we will ever feel any differently about that no matter how many are made under Disney. ;)
     
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    Hopefully the new films and tv series will be more adult oriented / focused... And about Jedi, not bounty hunters or stuff you can get off any SciFi Space show...

    I'm guessing this 'unexplored part of the galaxy' may be tied to Snoke's background?

    As long as it has Jedi, Lightsabers, The Force and has some elements that tie into the established universe and mythology, i'm good. Otherwise it's just another SciFi movie...
     
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    Based on what? For all we know this trilogy will run concurrently with episodes X-XI-XII.

    There is no benefit to Disney to end the Skywalker Saga with IX. Rest for a while....aboslutely, but just go away? Makes no sense for them.

    We haev no idea what their contracts are, what the status of their characters after Episode IX will be. Even if they are only signed for 3 movies (not sure why Disney would forget what they learned with Marvel but.......) Star Wars generates so much money and return to the Skywalker/Episode movies after doing something different for 6-7-8 years would generate so much hype and merchendice sales, Disney could dump tens, maybe hundreds of millions, on those actors to get them back.

    To be fair, all the KOTOR setting stuff is now legends. That era would be a complete blank slate and probably look nothing like the legends EU material.


    Whats the benefit to Disney in killing off/ending the Skywalker family line?
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    Johson is only directing the first of this trilogy.

    http://www.starwars.com/news/rian-j...-all-new-star-wars-trilogy?cmp=smc|1147744441

    Lucasfilm is excited to announce that Johnson will create a brand-new Star Wars trilogy, the first of which he is also set to write and direct, with longtime collaborator Ram Bergman onboard to produce.

    maybe he'll do more of them, but right now he is confirmed to do one.
     
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    If it wouldn't be backstory or filler, then you wouldn't refer to the other movies as "the MAIN story". This is my point - it all needs to be the Main Story. That's one thing Marvel does very well with their movies - they may not all depict world changing events, but they are all part of the Main Story. I'm not suggesting that every Star Wars movie needs to be part of a single grand story line, but they shouldn't be supplemental material. There are books and comics for that. They would be better off making fewer movies than putting out films that feel like they are released mostly to hold us over until they release the next one that really matters.

    If they are making a movie that they don't think is important enough to box in future films, then they shouldn't be making that movie.
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    Exactly - making KotOR movies would mean re-writing a story-line/setting that is already fully formed in the minds of a lot of fans. I'd much prefer they travel entirely new ground, rather than re-writing something that has been pushed into Legends. Give me a movie that carries no added weight of expectation.
     
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    You know what? Could we maybe...I don’t know...maybe...

    ACTUALLY W A TC H THE LAST JEDI BEFORE WE CALL THIS THE COOLEST THING SINCE ICE CUBES OR THE BEST THING SINCE SLICED BREAD?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?

    Jeeezzzzz.....
     
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    whilst that is perhaps the wisest thing i've read since yesterday's announcements... never gonna happen my friend ;)

    we is too excited init.

    bread comes sliced now? woah! :p
     
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    Creatively, it will be difficult to tell a story beyond the saga films that isn't a spoiler for what happened to the Skywalker's/that isn't Skywalker centric.
    What I mean by that is if a Skywalker survives IX, then they will always be a part of whatever happens next. Their power is too great - and people will just be waiting for them to show up. And it won't make sense for them not to.

    Better to kill them off and tie up their saga and invent new characters for people to love, with new stories.
    Look at it this way, if Rey isn't a Skywalker and she does live on - wouldn't people be happy to just watch a saga with her as the main character again without Skywalker's? I think they surely would. A continuation of the Skywalker saga will become stale and would be dictated by the previous trilogies (as we see with the ST). It should be about Vader and they're at the end of that story now in dealing with his legacy (grandkid).
     
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    This was to be expected though.

    Disney CEO said last year that there will be around 15 more Star War films in the future.

    Using simple mathematics , by current tempo of release ( one trilogy film one year and one standalone film another year),this:

    15 minus 3 films (ep VIII,Solo and ep IX) which makes 12 films about which we dont know nothing ...

    That is 6 standalone films and 6 more films in trilogies.

    So they have in fact a grand plan for 2 more trilogies, not one.
     
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    If they made the "old republic" a good setting, instead of just fan fictino level "its exactly the same 4,000 years ago but with more lightsabers" shlock, it could be a good place to go.

    Not really. Thats like saying Rogue one spoils ANH. You can't say the Star Wars universe is big and has room for stories outside the Skywalkers, then say any story would spoil a potential Skywalker story.

    Really? You don't think its possible to tell any story set between ANH and TLJ that doesn't involve Luke? Just impossible. He is everywhere ready to solve every problem?

    Of course not, you can EASILY tell a story post Episode IX (if thats where this trilogy takes place) that doesn't involve a Skywalker, and by not doing something stupid like killing of the center characters of the franchise, Disney has left themselves options for the future. And no, continuing the Skywalker story doesn't = stale automatically. Thats the beauty of a generational story, you can reinvent the family and introduce new characters while moving forward. There is almost no story you could propose, at least in general terms, that couldn't easily be about hte Skywalkers. Your lack of imagination doesn't = reality. Just look at what Lucas and Kennedy have said - they had Lucas's treatments for Episodes VII+ and they were compeletely new, different types of stories that Kennedy and Abrams and Disney decided to ignore to make throw back stories. The ST is kinda re-doing whats been done before by design.
     
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