SPECULATION Romance - who falls for who in VIII?

Not if they bond during their close time together.

But this is just speculation.

 

Makes perfect sense as well.

 

I think the point Rian was making is that there is no central to the story type romance. There is plenty of time and space to show secondary things going on but that there is no Han and Leia style plot.

Meaning the Hoth to Bespin journey was the setting for the main action of the plot= Han and Leia falling in love. They borrowed heavily from "The African Queen" an old Bogart and Hepburn movie. So don't expect any of the divergent plots to be ABOUT a romance.

 

Can I just say that John Boyega seems to be a super adorable nice person and a lot of that comes out in Finn. I'm looking forward to the adventure he is rumored to be on in the film with Rose and I know they have hinted it may be a bit inspired by To Catch a Thief.

 

Agree

 

Sorry to drag this up again, but...

If you believe Rey+(redeemed)Kylo will happen, will your oulook change if TLJ ends with:

1. No overt display of romantic feelings/attraction

and

2. Rey's father remaining a mystery

?

I'm wondering, because for Rey+Kylo, I personally think Rey has to be confirmed non-related in TLJ by the narrative showing us both of her parents.

I personally think that the likelihood of the pairing, as well as the idenity of Rey's parents, will essentially be answered in TLJ, even if it isn't all *expressly* revealed. But I'm curious how others would react?

 

basically you're asking if we still have status quo at the end of TLJ, will we change our minds?
i think there's no chance of having status quo at the end of TLJ, but if it were to happen, then i'm not sure why anyone would feel the need to change their minds. whatever they're waiting for to happen in TLJ they'll just wait for it to happen in IX.

or am i misunderstanding the question?

not that i have a pony in this race, but what would kill the speculation for me would be:

• Ren Ben makes no progress whatsoever toward the Light; he's worse off spiritually at the end of TLJ than he was in TFA.
  
• Rey makes a declaration of following the Jedi path that clearly states she will encumber no attachments.

everything will depend on the bond or "connection" they share: what it means, how they interpret it, etc.
that's what's going to matter. not whether her parents get named or they make goo-goo eyes at one another.

 

Well, almost status quo. Let's assume

1. That Kylo is clearly going down the redemption road/perhaps Rey doesn't loathe him quite so much (which I think many of us agree is likely to happen, whether or not we think romance will result) but no signs of attraction

and

2. We learn who Rey's "family" is but her father specifically remains a mystery (which is what I personally think will happen).

I don't know why, if Rey+Kylo is the endgame, the audience would be allowed to go into Ep 9 still thinking they could be related (IF Rey's father remains a mystery)? I would think it would at least be unambiguously made clear that they're not related?


Personally, I believe that a bifurcated reveal, where Rey's mother/family is revealed in TLJ and her father is left to be revealed in 9 basically = Luke's her father. If Luke is her father it certainly wouldn't be revealed in TLJ. ("I am you father," anyone?) And if neither parent is anyone we know, why reveal her father seperately, and at the end of the trilogy? For me, it's an issue of narrative logistics.

I am wondering whether, if what I think will happen occurs, anyone's mind would be changed whether what they think will happen on the romance front.

Or whether the debate would just rage onwards for 2 more years.

Or perhaps we'll find out about 2 dead parents, thus at least ending one argument against Rey+Kylo, or be shown some sort of overt indication of romance that will shoot down the Rey Related theories.

But I don't know if any of the romance theories are specifically drpending on either of those happening?

 

i guess for me it all depends on Ren and Rey. the reveal of her parents is irrelevant. if she's Luke's daughter, hopefully the filmmakers won't have the bad taste to make them flirt with one another or set up those hints (and, if anything, the "bond" or connection between them will actually put distance between them given that people are already shipping them so hard because of their interactions up to now).

i agree, if there's a Rey+Ren (or more likely Ben) in the cards it should be fairly obvious that they can at least tolerate one another and have made progress toward a mutual goal (like siding against Snoke, for example). personally i think this is as far as we'd get in TLJ: they may not even like each other, but they find some common ground. i honestly think the ST will end with the possibility of them working together/forming a partnership/relationship as an ongoing thing. whether it's romantic feels kind of beside the point. it might go there and i honestly don't see her being Luke's kid, but i don't think the story is about that.

 

Ohhhhh....this is an interesting thread


I go with....Luke and Ahsoka!

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I mean...Lukoka

 

I absolutely see them working together by the end. I don't see why they'd bother redeeming Kylo if that didn't come to pass.

I'm probably right, then, in thinking I'll be in a very lonely minority believing that TLJ will allow for firm conclusions (ie, Rey Related and thus no Kylo+Rey OR Rey Unrelated and thus a far clearer path for romantic possibilities).

XD

 

i think it absolutely could! i believe it too!
i mean, i hope they do settle the Rey parentage question in the first five minutes of the film so we can all just get on with our lives ~ hahahaha
the will they or won't they question might not be resolved (barring Luke being revealed as Rey's father), but again, i think that's minor/side stuff.
the fun part will be seeing them struggle to find their balance.

 

If they do "will they/won't they" in TLJ they'd BETTER confirm they're not related.

Well...a kiss/romance-suggestive embrace would settle THAT question ;P

But otherwise I think many of us with our hearts set on particular outcomes will come out of TLJ wanting to strangle RJ for allowing the debate to continue!!

 

i think Johnson won't leave so many doors open.
by the time TLJ wraps up, we should be focused on the outcomes, not wondering about who the characters are fundamentally.

 

Yes.

OR, if we're wondering who they are, it won't have mega outcome implications.

I mean, I think Rey is a Skywalker but I don't think it's of a "I am your father" level of plot-driving importance. And if she isn't, then imo it would be idiotic not to wrap up the fundamental parentage question in TLJ.

I just want the Rey+Kylo camp vs Rey Skywalker camp conflict/debate to ennnnnd DX

I still doubt there was much pre-planned for the finale other than good triumphing, though. It will be interesting to eventually find out what the true "presets" were and the philosophy behind leaving so much of the plot up to the directors.

 

me toooo!

i honestly don't think i care ~ ha! (i'm easy that way). i also think the Rey parentage thing was actually an accident and they just decided to bank on it. because look at the buzz it's caused. Daisy Ridley and Mark Hamill aren't trolling us for nothing ~ hahaha

 

Well, Mark loves ANY opportunity to troll I'll bet he wasn't fond of what RJ did with Luke because He doesn't get even ONE smile in the whole movie...

Ohhhhhh KK knew people would be wondering about the parentage thing!:

Kathy Kennedy interview

MTV:"Tell me a bit about, there's been so much conjecture about Rey's parentage. For you is that question integral to the story in these last 2 films or is too much being made of that question."

KK:"No, I think it is integral. I think it is important. I think it's something that you know....Interestingly enough even when we were sitting coming up with episode VII:TFA. It was one of the central questions we were all asking ourselves. So it's not surprising that the audience is going to continue...ask that, we have to answer it at some point. I think that's what everyone is intrigued by. Do we answer that now? do we answer it later? Hmmm, I'm not going to answer that. (laughs)"

SADIST!!!

I bet Finn and Rose get a cute romantic something at some point.

But honestly, there are SO MANY important characters being followed in the ST that I worry we won't get nearly enough development of *any* relationship =\

 

hard to interpret KK's words since she's answering this question after the release of TFA. of course "who Rey is" is critical/integral and of course i'm sure it got batted around and around the table. i guess i'm saying that the assumptive leap to thinking she's Luke's was not necessarily expected.

or, like you said, they're just sadists ~ hahahaha

am i terrible person for already hating Rose? for the reasons you just described. we have these amazing rich characters.
i want to spend time with them, not get bogged down on new ones ~ ha! : D

 

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Like tone poems.