SPOILER Snow Planet and Super Weapons

So under this scenario, the red sphere is probably Death Star III, the green moon is probably the world with the superweapon on it (since the DSIII seems to be targeting it), and the large planet..?

Maybe Leia's fear is that the large planet will be collateral damage when they destroy its moon?







ETA: Or maybe this is like ST '09 where they hide behind one planet to avoid detection from enemies on another. It seems like the arrows indicate a plan for how to destroy the little planet by shooting around the big one.

 

I agree, it would be cool to have an Boba Fett-like character is TFA
Christie going after Force-Sensitives could put Kylo Ren in an interesting place. It is almost certain he is Force Sensitive, so this is my theory:
In the concept art, we've seen stormtroopers burning down a Rebel base. The stormtroopers are just doing their job, continuing the war against the Alliance, but their leader, Christie, has a different agenda: to find any FS hiding there. Kylo Ren, a rebel pilot, happens to awaken to the Dark Side of the Force, but he has to leave because he is being hunted by Christie. He finds Serkis (Darth Plagueis maybe?) who takes him in and begins to teach him. Then, like in theories many have come up with, a showdown could take place between Kylo Ren, Christie, Luke, Rey, and Finn, who got there because of different reasons.
I dunno. I'm probably wrong, but if Christie is going after potential Jedi, then this could be an interesting plot device.

 

The bolded definitely does come off as a bit douchey on the part of the author. Beyond that I don't know whether to buy it or not. Even if it does have truth to it, we can't judge the context of the pieces entailed in the article. Doesn't sound bad to me given context, but we'll see what TPTB have in store for us.

 

Agreed, kind of. I enjoy Jason's writing and podcast, and I'm sure he's not doing any of this with malice. I will say, though, when you walk out on a limb with a story you are admittedly saying may very well be false, don't throw other writers in there with you (and passive aggressively under the bus) so if you're wrong then it makes everyone look like they're wrong. Again, I doubt that's what Jason intended, but it can certainly come off that way "from a certain point of view".

Star Wars 7 News and MSW are two entirely different beasts, in my opinion, and I enjoy them equally because of that. I like that Jason comments here and I also like that the MOD's don't make an exception to the links he puts on his posts to MSW just because it's a reputable Star Wars fan site. Whatever beefs there are with the dude, just remember when it comes down to it, he's a HUGE Star Wars fan and has some really good insight on a lot of things discussed on these boards. I'm not taking sides here, just trying to see both sides of them.

 

Totally agree. The idea that a contraption on, say, Mustafar could be pointed at the sky and detect midichlorian counts or scan individuals on a cellular level on Yavin makes me not want to finish this sentence. blech...

 

The most problematic thing about it is: If this superweapon merely detects Jedi, why would that be reason enough to destroy an entire planet full of innocent people? Where's the moral quandary?

 

Now I am not really a huge fan of this idea, but the moral conundrum might come in if the planet with the weapon is not "mustafar" bur Morabund, (Koraban). What if the "innocent" people were the same people who bred the sith. Now that is a moral conundrum that I could actually kind of enjoy. That might be the only way I would be in favor of a "death star 3"

This becomes even cooler if the one who destroys the "death star 3" is Luke, who in reality is destroying the republic because they are about to destroy the sith. That would be an interesting twist. Who is the good guy?

 

Yes, peaceful co-existence. It's not a pissing match... and behaving as such only makes us all look petty.

I'd wonder what Jason's sources would have to say about his holier-than-thou attitude towards readers and other SW fan sites.

Traffic is traffic, and if Jason's putting up good numbers, more power to him.

Just remember, he is replaceable... and we can vote with our clicks. The numbers dry up, and his source will begin feeding someone else... someone who can disseminate the information without letting it go to his or her head.

Personally, I'd rather get day-old news from a nice person than a world exclusive from someone who lords it over me.

In closing... regardless of what Jason would have you believe, every click does in fact matter. And the best audience is one that shares your content and continues to discuss it long after the story went live. To that end, everyone who posts regularly in The Cantina is a gold mine. You are what every SW fan site wants in a reader. Active, rabid, smart, social, imaginative, challenging, and vocal. You keep the community growing. You sharpen our thinking. You are the ideal fan. You are why we're here and nowhere else.

Thanks for giving us a site and forum to connect with each other and share our love of Star Wars, Viral!

P.S. You catch more clicks with honey than piss and vinegar.

Group hug.

 

Sounds like a really bad idea, this Jedi detector machine.
By the way it's not very useful, because Luke is the only Jedi left, not much to detect.
I hope this nonsense is not in the movie.

 

What if only the Death Star laser system is used and it's built on an existing planet instead of a floating sphere? That would be awesome protection for any planet from invaders. Especially the Republic Capital.

 

Perhaps not a Jedi detecting machine, but a force sensitive detector. That would make a bit more sense. If whoever is targeting force sensitives for whatever reason (forced recruitment, extermination, etc.) then I could see why the New Republic would feel compelled to intervene.

*none of those unfortunate puns were intended.

 

i believe it said somewhere that the planet is only inhabited by imperials so would be on par with destroying the death star.

 

I think people that work on the movie read internet speculation, spoilers, and fanfics masquerading as spoilers in an attempt to figure out / fill in the gaps of what they worked on. So it creates a feedback loop.

internet -> connected person -> internet

 

I believe Luke is trying to block the main baddie from finding his Jedi Padawans (remember the cast leak recently named a new actor playing a "Padawan" ) I doubt it's a Jedi detector machine, but the character Andy Serkis is playing. He may be trying to seduce as many Force sensitives as possible, that's when he finds Kylo Ren (Solo?) and seduces him to do his dirty work.....hunt down Luke Skywalker.

 

Some of this sounds good and some doesn't sound quite so good. I agree that I think Rey is just an alias used to cover who true name, whether it ends up being Jaina Solo, Kira Rey Solo, or something different, but I'd wager to say it ends with Solo. Let's keep in mind that everything said here is all speculation so don't freak out yet.

 

I don't see much of an issue with these rumours. With the empire crippled but not in full collapse, a new leader or Inquisitor might have been able to harness a force planet to detect jedi to help stop their full collapse

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Force_planet


Imagine a scenario where we left the new republic and jedi rising but the empire was able to complete a secondary project which up until now has been very successful in stopping the jedi rising and has left the galaxy in a state between hot and Cold War. That works for me at least


Now in terms of the "Death Star" the Republic are building, its only 30 years after ROTJ. Lets consider the fact that the New republic was probably working on this weapon to fight the imperial death star and i SERIOUSLY doubt that this new "death star" looks anything like the old ones, i assume its "death star in name only" aka it can destroy a planet.

 

This is a good question. I guess none of us know enough yet to be able to answer it with any reasonable degree of assurance, but I'd figure that this "Jedi detector" is aiding the Imperials in some sort of program of mass extermination; if the detector can sense when someone even just has a potential to develop abilities with the Force in the future, they could be using it to target not only Jedi but also small children—even babies! Leia is probably told something along the lines of that by murdering all the people on the planet, she'll be saving the lives of countless more innocent people living elsewhere.

But if it's just Andy Serkis, then why would they have to murder everyone on the planet to get rid of him? Just send Luke to take care of him!

 

It has definitely been disappointing to see the jabs thrown over the last week. I enjoy both sites and don't see why you have to compete or whine when it doesn't go your way. I enjoy the cantina as it the best laid out forum for Star Wars fans. Jason could've emailed/messaged Viral/mods in advance to establish some goodwill or obtain the exception. We are all just trying to satiate are hunger for Star Wars and we've got a long way to go. I know I and others have been saying lately but everybody needs to relax and attempt to exercise some emotional intelligence. You can't teach 'class.' Also pick your battles- one of the best pieces of advice ever given to me......now stepping off soapbox.

As far as the rumor(s) - it's all in the execution, but sad to hear presumed people working the film deflated by the end product. Again only time will tell.... Staying positive- could be the beer though

 

Don't get suckered by the republic being bad, theyre run by leia. The evil in the empire still runs strong and I bet they stikl run most of the outer/mid rim

 

In regards to the rumblings from people in production that it "feels too similar". I think we also have to remember this isn't a once off movie. There has always been talk and rumours about Kasdan coming back to have more of a focus on the OT. With only a 30 year gap, I feel that even while it might feel like the OT in some ways, its probably going to act as a huge launching pad for the ACTUAL story which commences in episode VIII and ends in IX.

I'm actually quite excited by these rumours the more i think about them.