That RT user score...

Also, I think metacritic illustrates the divide better

 

Endorsed. Trust an angry, frustrated hater mob? NO THANKS!

 

User score is never manipulated unlike the critics score. Critics just do their job. They get paid for what they do. Therefore, it's easier to manipulate their opinions with money. Your average user just post their honest opinion. And trust me, there are a lot of comprehensive user reviews and a lot of pure bs critics' ones.

 

Disney’s Star Wars: The Last Jedi earned its third straight A CinemaScore for the franchise... RT user reviews while I assume a lot of the negative is legitimate and valid..

its been known that bots and fake accounts can be used to alter that score.

 

The user score for RO and TFA smell like roses in comparison.

http://www.metacritic.com/movie/rogue-one-a-star-wars-story
http://www.metacritic.com/movie/star-wars-episode-vii---the-force-awakens

 

So I don't understand how you guys think the score is being manipulated, in favor or against the movie? Seems pretty consistent with what we are seeing in this forum plenty of people who loved it and plenty of people who hated it.

 

I don't think the user scores are being manipulated. Just like people should realise the critics giving it a high score doesn't mean they are bought out (as some are suggesting on these forums).

My point is that i'd trust a critic review more than a fan base to read about a movie.

Critics continually get panned for high/low scores, to me I have no idea why these site display Critics and fan scores next to each other.

Fan are fans, critics are critics.

 

You're forgetting a huge demographic that is infinitely more "important" than either the fans or the critics- the general audience. They are minimally invested and here only to enjoy an evening out. Those people LOVED the movie. Some 68% rated it as "excellent" and 21% rated it as "very good" and a total of 82% said they would “definitely recommend” the film.

The fans may be divided but the biggest section of the audience isn't.

--- Double Post Merged, Dec 16, 2017, Original Post Date: Dec 16, 2017 ---

The internet is basically the wild west of our times. EA sucks but worse than BoA? That's wild.

 

Is this really saying much if that's the condition?

 

With CinemaScore A
ComScore/Screen Engine reports a mindblowing five-out-of-five stars for the movie and a 90% overall positive with an 82% definite recommend.”

These are people rating from the theatre, I would take that info as more valid.

 

It, like every franchise with an huge audience mirrors the big gaps that run through our societies.
TLJ was clearly not a film for people who fall for war machineries and "wise" despot-like supreme leaders. It was kind of an anti-war film.
Just like Yoda said: Wars don't make anyone great. Luke and Rose know that (..we don't fight what we hate, we save what we love..). That's the only way to become a winner over our selfishness.

 

I'm sorry, but I'm not that smart to have an argument of that sort. I guess I should've put my thought about "never manipulated" differently. What I meant is just that people will say what they think about the movie no matter what other people think about it, whether they like it or dislike it. There's clearly a divide on the topic of TLJ and the screenshot that I provided illustrates it well enough. I just find it suspicious how none of critics gave the movie a negative review. There's a lot of things to criticise in the movie, but for some reason they are only brought up by fans.

 

I sincerely think you're misunderstanding the problems people are having with this movie; ~100% of the people who saw TLJ, and are complaining about it, have seen ESB. Many have seen it multiple times. You know what, I'll post two videos to show you what I mean:

Spoiler: Spoiler

Spoiler: Spoiler

 

That's an insteresting analysis but to be honest I don't think anyone disliked the movie for the reasons you mentioned, or at least no one mentioned anything similar, on the contrary many like me cited Luke's out of character actions as one of the biggest flaws, the idea that he even contemplated killing Ben.

 

For it being an anti-war film, the fact that it utterly sidelines Finn the way it does only goes to showcase the trilogy's thoughtlessness.

 

Maybe but you're forgetting the fact that the people who have seen ESB have also seen RotJ, they know how the story ends. That takes away the sting of disappointment and lost hope that permeates the previous movie.
There's a reason it' only received wide acclaim AFTER it's sequel came out.

Also, those two videos are actual garbage on par with "Jar Jar Abrams". I'm not even going to dignify those channels with my views. Pure cancer.